Serious Sellers Podcast: Learn How To Sell On Amazon FBA & Walmart

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Are you an Amazon FBA, Walmart, or Ecommerce Seller, or someone interested in becoming one? The Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10 is an unscripted, unrehearsed, BS-free, organic conversation between host Bradley Sutton, and real life sellers and thought leaders in the ecommerce world, where they share the top strategies that will help sellers of all levels succeed. In addition, every week there is an episode of the ”Weekly Buzz” which gives a rundown of the latest news in the Ecommerce world. ► Instagram: instagram.com/serioussellerspodcast ► Free Amazon Seller Chrome Extension: https://h10.me/extension ► Sign Up For Helium 10: https://h10.me/signup (Use SSP10 To Save 10% For Life) ► Learn How To Sell on Amazon: https://h10.me/ft ► Watch The Podcasts On Youtube: youtube.com/@Helium10/videos

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Tuesday Sep 10, 2024

#595 - TikTok Advertising For Amazon Brand Awareness

Tuesday Sep 10, 2024

In our latest episode, unlock the secrets to skyrocketing your e-commerce success with TikTok advertising! We chat with Tamara Zeravljev of Add to Ads, who shares her incredible insights into the booming TikTok phenomenon, offering unparalleled strategies whether you have a TikTok Shop or not. Also, hear some of her personal anecdotes about Serbian weather and sports culture, adding a touch of warmth to our conversation.

Discover how a high-budget TikTok brand awareness campaign can transform your business. With a minimum starting budget, we break down the mechanics of using TikTok's reach and frequency feature to amass brand visibility in just one day. Learn how to leverage multiple engaging videos and influencer content to maintain an organic feel while collecting invaluable data for future campaigns. Don't miss our deep dive into the importance of product showcases and influencer partnerships to maximize your brand's recognition.

Finally, arm yourself with actionable tips for starting and growing a TikTok brand channel. We guide you through the process of using both original and user-generated content to keep your profile fresh and engaging. For Amazon sellers, we offer practical advice on working with influencers, starting with product exchanges before moving to monetary compensation. Whether you're operating on a tight budget or ready to invest more, our strategies will help you build a robust brand presence on TikTok. Join us for this comprehensive guide to mastering TikTok advertising and content strategy!

In episode 595 of the Serious Sellers Podcast, Bradley and Tamara discuss:

00:00 - TikTok Advertising Success Stories
03:11 - Passion for Sports in Serbia
06:31 - Focus on TikTok Advertising Strategy
08:33 - Advantages of TikTok Advertising for Amazon Brands
09:57 - TikTok Brand Awareness Campaign Success
12:57 - Brand Awareness Video Strategy
15:41 - Starting a TikTok Brand Channel
21:35 - Creating Brand Identity on TikTok
22:02 - Using TikTok Videos for Advertising
26:48 - TikTok Advertising Strategy and Conversion Campaigns
31:09 - Creating Effective TikTok Content Strategy

Saturday Sep 07, 2024

#594 - Advanced Amazon Tools for 7+ Figure Brands

Saturday Sep 07, 2024

Join us for an inspiring episode where we feature two incredible guests, Chris Zurcher and Sarah Chung. Sarah shares her unique journey from a small port city in South Korea to the bustling South Bay area of Torrance, California. Her story is filled with determination and resilience, reflecting on her family's move to the US for better opportunities and her professional growth at Helium 10 over the past three and a half years. Sarah's first appearance on the podcast gives listeners a heartfelt glimpse into her personal and professional life.

Chris, a familiar voice from previous episodes, reconnects with us to discuss his fascinating transition from an Amazon seller to a valuable member of the Helium 10 team. With a background in acting, photography, and Division One basketball, Chris shares his reasons for moving away from Amazon selling and his passion for supporting sellers through Helium 10's platform. We explore the current challenges Amazon sellers face in 2024, such as increased fees and competition, and how Helium 10's data-driven tools can provide the necessary insights for success.

We also dive into the advanced features of Helium 10's Supercharge plan, which offers enhanced tools and customizable options to meet the specific needs of businesses. From market data and consumer behavior analysis to custom plans and dedicated customer success managers, Helium 10 provides comprehensive support for sellers. Finally, we highlight the benefits of connecting with experts like Sarah and Chris for enterprise-level assistance and share fun, creative ways to make your interactions with them memorable. Don't miss out on these engaging stories and valuable insights that can help take your Amazon selling to the next level!

In episode 594 of the Serious Sellers Podcast, Bradley, Chris, and Sarah discuss:

00:00 - Amazon Sellers' Success Stories Helium 10
07:16 - Amazon Business Principles and Surprises
09:49 - Scaling Brands Using Helium 10
16:01 - E-Commerce Brand Scaling and Consolidation
18:55 - Custom Plans and Supercharge Benefits
21:45 - Customized Plans Offered For Huge Brands by Helium 10
26:23 - Enhancing Helium 10 Platform Features
30:49 - Personal Customer Success Manager
34:32 - Helium 10 Sales Support Options

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Thursday Sep 05, 2024

Helium 10 Buzz 9/5/24: WFS Fulfills Beyond Walmart | MCF Faster Delivery | TikTok Ban Impact

Thursday Sep 05, 2024

Temu and Shein packages are flooding delivery networks. Will the surge persist?
https://www.retaildive.com/news/temu-shein-shipping-delivery-industry-impact/725707/

For Amazon sellers, we've got game-changing strategies up our sleeves, featuring a deep dive into Helium 10’s BlackBox tool Competitor tab. Learn how to pinpoint your closest competitors through shared keywords, supercharge your product listings, and fine-tune your Amazon PPC campaigns to stay ahead in a fiercely competitive market. Don't miss out on this invaluable news and insights!

In this episode of the Weekly Buzz by Helium 10, Bradley covers:

00:53 - Amazon's Technical Snag
02:03 - Walmart Levels Up
03:17 - Using WFS Beyond Walmart
04:59 - TikTok Contingency Plan
07:00 - Faster Delivery for MCF
07:45 - Rufus Launches in UK
09:14 - Temu & Shein Changes?
10:36 - Training Tip: Black Box Competitor Tab

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Transcript

Shivali Patel:

Walmart now offering competitive rates to fulfill orders beyond its platform, Amazon, rolling out faster delivery options for multi-channel fulfillment and potential regulation changes that could affect pricing on Temu and Shein. This and more on this week's episode of the Weekly Buzz.

Bradley Sutton:

How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10. I'm your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is the show. That is our Helium 10 Weekly Buzz, where we give you a rundown of all the new stories that are going on in the Amazon, Walmart and e-commerce world. We highlight the latest new feature alerts from Helium 10, and we review a training tip of the week that'll give you serious strategies for serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. Today, our host is going to be Shivali Patel, and so, Shivali, take it away and let us know what's buzzing.

Shivali Patel:

First up, we have this news article from CNBC discussing the technical snag Amazon faced during its Labor Day sale. On Friday, customers were unable to complete purchases due to some technical issue in the checkout process. Sometimes the consumers would encounter error messages featuring Amazon's famous dog photos. This glitch occurred just as Amazon was rolling out major discounts for the holiday weekend, frustrating those customers eager to grab deals, leading to it quickly becoming a topic of conversation for social media. For sellers on Amazon, this should serve as a reminder for you guys of the impact that technical challenges can have on sales, especially during big promotional events. While Amazon saw a robust $148 billion in the second quarter, things like this can really damage both sales performance and consumer trust. So, as that holiday season peaks around the corner, make sure that you guys are staying vigilant during peak sales periods to manage your customer interactions and monitor any potential issues that could affect your business.

Shivali Patel:

Next up, some Walmart news. We have Fox Business reporting on Walmart stepping up its e-commerce game with bold new strategies aimed at expanding its product offerings. Currently dominating brick-and-mortar retail, Walmart has only a 6% share of the online marketplace, compared to Amazon's commanding 38%, but they're working hard to close that gap. Walmart's leveraging its vast physical store network as fulfillment hubs, while increasing its focus on its online marketplace. The company's actually been rolling out new categories, such as the premium beauty category. This is gonna feature brands like T3 and CauseRx if you've heard of them and they're launching initiatives like Resold at Walmart for pre-owned goods on the Walmart marketplace, which is designed for sellers like you and I, not to mention that Walmart's marketplace has achieved over 30% sales growth for four consecutive quarters and while it's not at Amazon's level, this expansion is only one more reason for you guys to begin considering Walmart as a viable e-commerce platform. If you're not actively selling on it. Increase competition or new opportunities to diversify sales channels and take advantage of Walmart's lower fees and growing customer base. You decide. And this leads me into the next news piece from WebPro News.

Shivali Patel:

You guys, if you didn't know, Walmart now has a Walmart's multi-channel solutions program, which allows sellers to fulfill orders from any e-commerce site using Walmart's fulfillment services, offering competitive rates that are 15% lower than its competitors. I mean talk about making the platform an even more attractive option for third-party sellers. Starting September 10th, sellers will be able to use Walmart's extensive warehousing, delivery and return services to fulfill orders from other e-commerce platforms, including Target, Etsy and even Amazon itself. This initiative expands Walmart fulfillment services and directly challenges Amazon's fulfillment by Amazon model, allowing sellers like you and I to manage logistics with Walmart's resources For sellers, using Amazon or other platforms. So if this is you, this means you will now have an alternative fulfillment solution that offers cost-effective logistics, helping you streamline operations while reaching customers across multiple channels. Walmart's logistics services will feature plain, unbranded packaging and two shipping options expedited and standard, though there are going to be some limitations for specific products, like multi-box orders, so just make sure that you read up on those things. Despite these challenges, Walmart is aiming to reshape the logistics landscape and offer more flexibility for sellers across the board. This, you guys, has really big implications for e-commerce and, as a seller, I would just encourage you to keep an eye on how this logistics network evolves over time and provides even more opportunities for growth.

Shivali Patel:

Okay, let's switch over to TikTok. A news report from Retail Customer Experience has revealed that, while a majority of retailers 68% of them believe that a potential ban or sale of TikTok would negatively affect their business, only 28% actually have some sort of contingency plan in place. TikTok has become a crucial platform for product discovery, with over two-thirds of the actual consumers finding products on the app and then purchasing them elsewhere. So I would say for Amazon and Walmart sellers, this sort of uncertainty around TikTok's future could potentially pose a disruption in customer acquisition, particularly as 81% of retailers are actually using TikTok to sell directly to consumers. I think we all recognize how monumental viral content can be for a business, and it's no secret that viral content on the platform has led to issues like stockouts and delays. So are you prepared for any impact associated to a possible shutdown? According to the article, 73% of consumers plan to use TikTok as inspiration for their holiday shopping and 59% intend to make purchases directly through TikTok shop, whereas 39% of consumers named Facebook as the platform where they will spend a majority of their time if something happens to TikTok, meaning that there is going to most likely be increased competition for attention on those platforms, on the social media platforms that are not TikTok, where people are finding inspo. Consider diversifying your marketing channels from now and create those contingency plans to prepare for the potential loss of TikTok as a sales tool.

Shivali Patel:

Now I'm not saying that it's gone just yet, but be prepared is what I'm getting at. Of course, quite a bit of things are category dependent, but as the holiday shopping approaches, I really think it's important to have a robust strategy across multiple channels, and that will be paramount to maintaining visibility and customer engagement. All right now directly from Amazon and you can find this inside of Seller Central News. But Amazon just rolled out faster delivery of multi-channel fulfillment orders, and this gives sellers a big advantage in meeting customer demands. The updated delivery speeds come at no additional cost, and standard delivery has improved to three business days, which is down from five business days. Expedited delivery has improved to three business days, which is down from five business days. Expedited delivery has improved to two business days, down from three, and priority delivery has been discontinued. Any new orders will be charged at the expedited rate. This improvement means your customers can enjoy faster shipping, helping you boost satisfaction and sales across your channels. Take advantage of these updates to grow your business by providing even quicker delivery. For more information, you guys can just go in and tap this link right here.

Shivali Patel:

In other news, amazon just introduced its newest tool in online shopping an AI-powered assistant named Rufus. Are any of you guys familiar with it? Let me know in the chat. I feel like I've mentioned this before on Buzz, but I was in the UK just a couple weeks ago and actually got to see this during my shopping experience in the app, so it's now in beta for select UK customers. Rufus is designed to enhance the shopping experience by answering your customer questions, offering personalized recommendations. Like, let's say, you say I'm preparing for a camping trip. It would give you recommendations based off that and just helping in general with product discovery. So, using Amazon's vast product catalog and web data, rufus can assist with everything from suggesting the climbing gear, the camping gear, to comparing products like lip gloss versus lip oil, and I think for sellers, this represents an interesting and exciting development in how customers can find our products. So, with Rufus, shoppers can save time and make more informed decisions, ultimately improving the overall experience and potentially driving more sales. This AI integration really highlights the future of e-com, you guys, and it's only going to continue to evolve. As Amazon continues to roll out this tool, I anticipate that more AI-driven features will come out that can change how customers interact with our products, which is why, of course, you'll want to keep tuned in to weekly buzzes to ensure maximized product visibility.

Shivali Patel:

And finally, let's talk about Temu and Shein, as they've surged in popularity, now sending about 900,000 packages daily. That is insane. That is a lot of packages, and I know a lot of you are concerned on whether this signals incoming price wars. These packages enter the country using the D Minus exemption. Now this helps keep shipping costs low, which allows the company to offer highly competitive prices. However, increasing scrutiny from lawmakers could actually impact this exemption and potentially affect both companies and the carriers that depend on their volume. What I mean by this is parcel carriers like UPS have seen notable growth with the rise of Temu and Shein, and both rely on low-cost shipping rates, which help them keep their product prices affordable, while slower delivery speeds 6 to 22 days for Temu and then 10 to 13 for Shein are the trade-off for shoppers. The high volume of packages keep those carrier trucks full and routes efficient. However, if regulatory changes alter the shipping process, costs could rise, impacting the current delivery boom. So keep an eye out for any potential changes in regulations. With that, that is it for this week's news.

Shivali Patel:

Now let's talk strategy. Let me show you how you can easily find your closest competitors for any Amazon product. Now, why is this important and how can it help you make money? Well, if you're researching a new niche, you need to understand who your competition is. Who do you need to watch out for? Who should you study at the keyword level to understand where they're getting their sales from? This tool will help you do just that. Using Black Box's competitors tab, you can input any ASIN that has some sort of history, something that's sold decent volume, and you'll want to avoid new products that aren't ranking yet, because the tool works best with established products. What it does do is it shows you the closest competitors based on how many keywords they rank similarly for. So, for example, let's say I were to input something in like an LED makeup case, I would see other products that are ranking high for the same keywords that that LED makeup case is ranking for, such as lighted makeup case or LED makeup bag.

Shivali Patel:

Let me actually share my screen and show you how it's done. You're going to navigate over to the fourth tab inside of Black Box, which says competitors. You're going to input in your own products ASIN or, let's say, a competitor's ASIN, which is what I'm doing, and then click search. In doing so, in my case, I got back 187 products here. So in my case, I got back 187 products here. If you are unfamiliar with the P index that's listed right here. This is what it is sorted by default. It tells you how closely related the products are based on shared keywords. So a product with a higher P index, closer to 10, means that the product is ranking for many of the same keywords as the one that you entered. Now. This is useful because you can immediately gain insight into how relevant these products are compared to yours.

Shivali Patel:

A lot of what we're looking at here in these results is makeup cases. They're just a bunch of additional makeup cases. However, you really never know Like. When I run the same search, typically with coffin shelves, I see other products like makeup shelves, spiderweb shelves or even goth themed items. So, depending on your niche, running the search is really really great for understanding what other products are closely competing with yours. From there, the next step would be to take these and jump into Cerebro to check out exactly which keywords these products are ranking for. From here, the next step would be to jump into Cerebro to check out exactly which keywords these products are ranking for. From here, the next step would be to jump into Cerebro to check out exactly which keywords these products are ranking for, or even take one of these products and start a fresh competitor search inside of Black Box to dive a bit deeper. Or let's say that you need to discover which products to target for your sponsored display or sponsored product campaigns Products that you know have a better offering or maybe some incentive over, so that if you appear on their product pages, you could potentially capture the sales.

Shivali Patel:

You can just use the filters at the very top to narrow down your search, and that is going to be these filters right here. So let's say, for example, you are looking for products that have fewer reviews than yours you would input in a max for review count. Or maybe you're looking for products that have fewer reviews than yours you would input in a max for review count. Or maybe you're looking for the ones where your product is actually priced a little bit lower you can type in a max for price point. So, in short, guys, this tool is invaluable for competitor research, generating PPC targets or identifying product opportunities in your niche. If you're seeing irrelevant products after the top five or so, then that's a sign that there are not many close competitors, giving you even more insight into the market space. Okay, that's a wrap. Hope you enjoyed this week's episode. We'll see you next week to see what's buzzing.

Tuesday Sep 03, 2024

#593 - Walmart WFS Selling Strategies

Tuesday Sep 03, 2024

Can selling on Walmart.com be your new secret weapon for e-commerce success? Join us as we welcome Ryan King from BlueRyse, a true Walmart marketplace expert, who shares game-changing strategies for boosting your sales on Walmart. Ryan explains why diversifying your online presence beyond Amazon is not just a smart move but essential for long-term growth. He details how to establish a strong foundation on Walmart early, from crafting compelling listings to amassing reviews and maintaining brand consistency, all while catering to the unique preferences of Walmart shoppers.

For those new to the world of e-commerce, Ryan offers a comparative analysis of Amazon and Walmart, shedding light on why Amazon is often the go-to starting point due to its extensive tools and higher volume opportunities. He shares insider tips on navigating Walmart's international selling stipulations and highlights the importance of brand registration to unlock exclusive advertising opportunities and protect intellectual property. Misconceptions about Walmart’s technology and algorithms are debunked, providing you with a solid understanding of how to effectively optimize your presence on this evolving platform.

Optimizing your product listings on Walmart isn't just about slapping on a few keywords. Ryan emphasizes the importance of new product type level attributes and backend attributes for better search visibility. He also discusses the benefits of the Walmart Pro Seller badge and why re-uploading listings using the latest item spec 5.0 can make a difference. Learn how to craft clear product descriptions, optimize image stacks, and leverage sponsored product campaigns to skyrocket your sales. Plus, get the scoop on exciting new developments like sponsored brand shops and shelves that can significantly enhance your offsite traffic and ranking. Don't miss this episode full of insights to elevate your Walmart selling game!

In episode 593 of the Serious Sellers Podcast, Carrie, Kevin, and Ryan discuss:

00:00 - Advanced Strategies Q&A for Walmart Sellers
02:56 - The Importance of Selling on Walmart
07:33 - Organic Shopping Shift Towards Walmart
10:51 - Maximizing Profits While Avoiding Price Wars
12:41 - Optimizing Sales on Walmart Marketplace
16:47 - Managing Duplicate Listings and IP Claims
22:28 - Optimizing Walmart Listings for Conversion
27:22 - Walmart Pro Seller Badge's Impact on Ranking
29:32 - Optimizing Walmart Listings and Advertising
33:03 - Optimizing Walmart PPC Campaigns for Efficiency

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Saturday Aug 31, 2024

#592 - Tips To Save Money On Your Amazon Product Shipment and Logistics

Saturday Aug 31, 2024

Is your Amazon product logistics strategy ready for Q4? Join us as we sit down with Burak Yolga, Co-Founder & CEO at Forceget, a leading expert in global supply chain and logistics, who reveals crucial strategies that Amazon sellers need to thrive in the fast-approaching holiday season. Burak unpacks how to save money on logistics and explore new marketplaces amidst the rise of new players like TikTok Shop Temu, and Shein. As a special treat, Burak shares his favorite restaurants in Istanbul, just in time for Bradley who is heading to the upcoming conference in the city.

We break down the factors driving up international shipping prices, from reduced vessel schedules to container shortages and shifting market demands. High inflation and the growth of platforms such as Temu and AliExpress are reshaping e-commerce, creating new challenges for Amazon sellers. Learn how to navigate Amazon Global Logistics’ practices, adapt to the new fees, and optimize your shipment strategy to stay competitive in today’s volatile market.

This episode is a goldmine of insights for those grappling with the costs of selling large items on Amazon. Discover why more sellers are turning to third-party logistics providers and exploring multi-channel selling to maximize profitability. We highlight the benefits of early inventory planning, the impact of Amazon's new delivery rules, and the critical need for flexible fulfillment options. Plus, find out how expanding into physical retail stores like Walmart can be a game-changer for your business. Tune in for expert strategies that can transform your logistics approach and boost your bottom line this Q4.

In episode 593 of the Serious Sellers Podcast, Bradley and Burak discuss:

00:00 - Global Supply Chain Insights and Tips
04:11 - Impact of Rising International Shipping Prices
07:20 - Impact of New Amazon Fees
12:26 - Amazon Global Logistics vs Independent Freight Forwarder
16:38 - Maximizing Amazon Seller Profitability
17:31 - Expanding Sales Beyond Amazon
23:00 - Diversifying Sales Channels and Maximizing Profits
24:03 - Saving on FBA Fees and Freight
30:11 - Benefits of Investing in Your Brand’s Website

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Transcript

Bradley Sutton:

Today we've got one of the world's leading experts on global supply chain and logistics and he's going to talk about a wide variety of topics, like things Amazon sellers can keep in mind for Q4, how they can save money on logistics and expanding to other marketplaces. How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. Black Box by Helium 10 House is the largest database of Amazon products and keywords in the world. Outside of Amazon itself, we have over 2 billion products and many millions more keywords from different Amazon marketplaces, from USA to Australia to Germany and more. Use our powerful filters to search through this database for pockets of opportunity that you might want to get into with your first or next product to sell on Amazon. For more information, go to h10.me/blackbox. Don't forget you can save 10% off for life on Helium 10 by using our special code SSP10. Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10. I am your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is the show. That's completely BS-free, unscripted and unrehearsed, organic conversation about serious strategies for Serious Sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. And we got somebody who helped Serious Seller all over the world, I think the third, maybe fourth time he's been on the Podcast. Burak, how's it going? Man? I'm great. Bradley, Thanks for having me again.

Burak:

I'm great. Bradley, Thanks for having me again.

Bradley Sutton:

Are you in Miami right now?

Burak:

Yes, Miami Florida.

Bradley Sutton:

Okay, I'm wearing my Miami hat. This is, like, I think, an older minor league baseball team or something. That's why I'm wearing my Miami hat today in your honor. But you're originally from Turkey. Did you know that I'm going to Istanbul in a little bit?

Burak:

I think you mentioned. Yes, I'm very excited. I wish I was there to take you to the best food restaurants, you know.

Bradley Sutton:

You'll have to tell me what the good ones are. Are there any in Istanbul that for sure I need to go to so I can maybe even by myself I can go?

Burak:

I think you should definitely visit Galata Port. It's a new place. It's right by the water. There are some good Kebab places and also definitely Baklava. You should try Gülolu, the best Baklava in the world.

Bradley Sutton:

Perfect, all right, I'm going to those places. By the way, I'm not sure when this podcast is going to go out, but if anybody is in Turkey and is down to meet me on September the 4th or 5th and you want to go with me to one of these restaurants or take me there. Conference I'm speaking at, you can get a link to it at h10.me forward slash Istanbul. H10.me forward slash Istanbul. It will forward you to the conference I'll be speaking at. So, I'd love to do like a little mini-Helium 10 meetup over there. Now. We're not here just to talk about Turkish food and Turkish delights. I'm sure we could spend a whole episode. You know as much as I love food to talk about that. But you know you're one of the leading experts in the world about, you know shipping and logistics and things like that, so let's just hop right into it. You know the last time you were on this show was episode 457. So, by the way, if anybody wants to get Burak's more of his backstory, actually go back to the very first episode he was on, which is episode 324. You can learn about his origin story. And then 457, we talked about some other topics, but what was 457? I think it was around, like you know, May, June of last year. So obviously you know things in logistics change month by month, even. What are some of the biggest changes that sellers should be aware of, just in general? First of all, in the logistics world, whether it's about pricing or taxes, what can you tell us has been different since the last time you were on the show?

Burak:

You know you're right, things sometimes change its daily base and you know, when we started ForceGet, it was probably five years ago, we were mainly focusing on international shipping, but we became more like a supply chain. Now there has been a lot of changes within our company as well as in the world. In the industry, with the e-commerce, especially with the Amazon FBA plus, the new players are coming into the market TikTok, Teemu, Shein and Shopify. According to the reports, they have lost some revenue. However, a lot of companies they're trying to enter omnichannel. That's something that I mentioned before we start recording. When it comes to international shipping, actually, international shipping prices increased. Compared to six months ago. I think we have seen the lowest shipping prices last probably a few decades. Full container price was almost uh 1500 dollars from China to Los Angeles. Now it went back up to seven, eight thousand dollars. Now we see the range of five thousand, five thousand, five hundred dollars, which is, I think, a hell to range for both um shipping lines, freight forwarders, as well as for f the um e-commerce and amazon sellers.

Bradley Sutton:

Prices went down but then prices have been going up again for different things. Obviously, there was that thing that happened last year in the Red Sea and things like that. So obviously there's always random things COVID, or there's a container ship blocking the whole Suez Canal or something like that. Those would obviously have an effect. But the recent price increases in shipping, like what is that attributed to? Because, like, is that because of the, the war that that's happening, or is it something else?

Burak:

Actually, this was uh sort of uh happened, I would say, inorganically. Uh, one of the reasons was the shipping lines. Uh, you know all these worldwide companies like Hyundai, Zim, Evergreen. I'm sure everybody's familiar with that big logo block less US channel they have canceled a lot of scheduled vessels because maybe 30%, 40% of the container vessel was not 100% fulfilled, vessel was not 100 percent fulfilled. Basically, they were losing a lot of money so they decided to roll over one of the week's shipping schedules to the next one. So basically, there was not enough demand but there is a lot of supply. Obviously then the prices start going down, basically in order to save money on the fuel, maybe the crew, maybe the insurance. So, they started to cancel a lot of scheduled vessels and obviously this caused a big chaos in the market. A lot of containers went, uh from China to other places like Europe, us did not come back. Then we start having container shortage. So, this is something uh started organically. Uh, there was not enough demand in the marketplaces, like in the US, like North America, USA, Canada, because of, I would say maybe, high inflation, or companies like Teemu, AliExpress start to do very cheap price Drop shipping from China, which is something interesting that we maybe talk later. Teemu is start entering US market. Start working with local 3PLs to acquire Amazon sellers to start selling the ones which are qualified OEC. Start selling on Teemu so they will start doing local deliveries with a shorter period of delivery times, which I believe they will try to attract Surplus. What is Surplus? The product that already has been sitting in the US for a long time. Amazon sellers or their wholesalers they cannot sell it, so they need to liquidate the product. So, Teemu was basically saying that hey, use our platform to liquidate them, not on the retail price, but heavily discounted price, maybe 60%, 70%. So, I think all these things happening last two years after COVID, when we saw a very big peak when the Amazon sellers were making really good money but then the sales dropped a couple of different reasons, and I see that it's the same thing is affecting the international shipping prices and fulfillment prices. Things are really very different right now compared to even six months ago.

Bradley Sutton:

Obviously, this has been the year of crazy Amazon, new fees and new announcements, you know, be it inbound, placement fees, and so I want to talk just a little bit about that. First, like in your you know you're handling both sides, you know, be it. You know shipping side, be it logistics side, warehousing and things. What have you seen as far as how this has changed, what Amazon sellers are doing, like, for example, me, I've got my own warehouse, but still now I'm being very mindful of how many you know, like, how many, you know what kind of boxes I'm putting in. Like, like, maybe before I was only trying to do you know a certain number of shipments, but now I'm like, no, I got to have minimum five, you know of one box or, oh, I need to try and increase a 15 because I got to avoid that placement fee. But what have you noticed as far as your clients? How are their practices different because of some of these new fees?

Burak:

Man. It's a really, really long topic actually when it comes to make it shorter version. When Amazon came up with this, the idea was start charging sellers for all those distribution fees that they need to ship to many small warehouses across fulfillment centers across the nation so the end user can receive the products not in two days but one day, even maybe sometimes half day. But we have seen a lot of case studies actually our customers. They created five shipments and when, let's say, 100 cartons, Amazon asked you to ship 50 cartons to Texas, we saw that the final delivery address Amazon distributed these products were still Pennsylvania or Florida or still North Carolina maybe. So what? Amazon was actually telling sellers in theory hey, split the shipments to five locations because that's going to be closer to the buyers. That was not really the case. Yeah, I guess they're still working on a lot of Optimization, uh structure. Obviously, this was like a new project for them. But there has been a lot of confusing for sellers. A lot of seller’s kind of felt like they have to use Amazon Global Logistics to avoid those uh placement. But then when they tried to book the shipment, amazon Global Logistics did not arrange to pick up. Three weeks, four weeks’ time Then they have charged people wrong HDS code. So, a lot of sellers they paid very high tax and duty instead of some other lower charges that they're supposed to receive. I mean, obviously we talked to a lot of people, some people they have good experience with Amazon Global Logistics, some people have bad experiences. But in my opinion that was not really fair for Amazon to tell people, hey, if you use AGL, then you will not be paying any of these fees, but then if you don't, then you have to pay for it. I guess I understand they have invested billions of dollars into this fulfillment center supply chain logistics, so they want to leverage the power of their seller the seller power, I would say. But I think I would not put all my eggs in the same basket, so I would not just use AGL and AWD, you know AWD also a new program Amazon has launched like two years. But since they're pushing a lot harder right now and I think the fourth quarter will be very tough uh test for Amazon with all the check-in processes, transferring uh products between the fulfillment centers and making sure that they become available and one of my I believe most of our customers now start looking into FBM options. Number one very high FBA fees. Number two all these delays with AGL, AWD, fulfillment center transfers. Obviously, amazon is going to prioritize. The products are already sitting in the fulfillment centers. They will prioritize to ship the products first, not receive the products first. So that always has been the case. So, if you ask my opinion, it's going to be a tough year for a lot of sellers to get and understand these FBA fees. But also try to be profitable. You know that's something that we've been talking about. It doesn't make sense anymore to say, hey, I'm seven, eight figure seller, but how much profit I'm making? So, I believe to make plan B, plan C is very, very important, Bradley.

Bradley Sutton:

Me having my own warehouse and obviously I can repack things and I do smaller quantities. I can easily make sure to send to four or five locations to get that, you know to skip the low inventory fee. But if I'm sending in containers and before I would send to Amazon directly, I pretty much have no option, right, like I am going to get that low inventory fee no matter what unless I send to a 3PL first and they divide it. Or am I thinking of that wrong, since I don't send containers directly to Amazon? I don't know, but is that correct? Like pretty much anybody who's sending full containers or containers that can't be broken up or shipments that can't be broken up, they're forced into this fee.

Burak:

Yes, kind of. But we have done some case studies to see what really makes sense, if it makes sense to ship, because Amazon Global Logistics is also not charging sellers the market fees. They're charging actually higher, a lot higher. So, if you're looking at door-to-door shipment from China to one of the most popular Amazon FBA fulfillment centers, let's say ONT8, which is in Los Angeles, California Riverside, if you use us it's going to cost $6,000, but with Amazon Global Logistics they're charging $8,000 or $9,000. So basically, they're kind of charging a little higher so that they can use probably that money to distribute the products within three to four different locations. And if it is LCL, then less than full container. Yes, you can actually choose to use your own freight forwarder and price is very similar. But one of the things that we realized; their FC transfer times a lot longer than using an independent Freight Forwarder. So, which means if you ship with AGL it will maybe be fully delivered to Amazon, fully check in, all received 90 days, versus you use your own Freight Forwarder, probably it will be delivered and checked in 45 to 50 days. So, does it matter for you? Maybe it doesn't really matter because the sales are not that fast right now, unfortunately, I don't see really much Amazon sales recently saying that, hey, I'm running out of inventory all the time. I hope it's a good problem. I hope some of the people having that problem. But majority of the people are saying, hey, I'm not in the rush, so I'm okay to take these fees. But then you should really understand the cost of actually paying everything in advance and your cash tied up to. If you're using a loan, if you're not using just cash, if you're, you know, withdrawing some money with, I don't know, amazon financing or third-party money, you get funding. So, you need to understand you may be paying monthly two to 3% because these are short term funds, so probably charging 20, 25% annually. So, every month you're paying two to 3% something that you're not selling. So that's basically three percent minus from your actual margin. So, there are so many things to consider. You know trying to explain as basic as possible. So definitely understand and see what is better for your business. And if I were a big seller, I wouldn't send all of my inventory FBA. I would keep some of my inventory in a 3pl close to amazon and send it in a you know, smaller batches and more frequent. This way I'm not going to be paying high inventory fees, the storage fees and, more importantly, I can test other marketplaces. You know, I can try to drive traffic. I will do FBM, I can do Tic Tac Shops or maybe even Walmart. So, it will give you more flexibility instead of sending everything to Amazon, FBA. And if one day somehow your listings get suspended or hijacked or your sales is down for some reason, then you'll be like, oh my God, what I'm going to do versus you have some inventory in a different location and you can start considering some other options.

Bradley Sutton:

We talked about new inventory fees that Amazon sellers are having to do, and then the question about whether to go AGL and things like that. But you also mentioned Fulfilled by Merchant. Now, for me, I do all of my products both. I have two SKUs for every product. I have FBM and FBA, and I always tell people to do that. Not necessarily anything to do with logistics, but just because there's still some people out there who don't have Amazon Prime and then, especially if we're talking about products that are priced below $25, they actually prime prices them out of it. So, like, if you're only FBA and you've got like a $24 product, when that person checks out, it's going to add like $8 shipping and now that $24 product became $32 product and you just lost that sale, probably you know, to somebody else and then so for, for that person, I can. I always have a skew. The buy box is actually the FBM skew, because it's only I'll do 2497, you know, with shipping, free shipping, I can, I can fulfill, uh, for almost the same as Amazon, considering that I don't have to pay, I don't have to send it to Amazon. I have to send Amazon pick and pack fees, but that's my reason for doing FBM, but are you saying that you're actually seeing some sellers go to Seller Fulfilled Prime and not do FBA, or you're just saying they're just forgetting Prime at all and having a listing that's strictly FBM?

Burak:

For larger items. We see sometimes only FBM, because some people say that, hey, Amazon is taking 50% to 55% of my sales price for large items. FBA is extremely expensive and I feel like a lot of people, a lot of buyers, are more price sensitive recently compared to two years ago. That's real. Most of our customers, they have both FBA and FBM. They do most likely what you do. Because you're right. I mean, some people they don't need the product in one day, they want to do the cheaper version. So why wouldn't you add an additional strategy to your listing? And it's your own money versus paying Amazon and 3pl will handle that a lot cheaper and then, if it is not a big item, your shipping price is not going to be that expensive. You can still buy the shipping within Amazon, which is great. You don't have to have your own ups FedEx account. But majority of our customers, they want to test new marketplaces. I know that our some of our customer they're investing into their own websites and when they get the order, they drive traffic, they convert. Then it's much easier to launch a product with your own email marketing, like with your own email database which you've been talking about. You know how to launch a product, like all the honeymoon period, amazon changing the algorithms, a lot of our customers also they have problem with launching a brand-new product on Amazon. It's not that easy as it used to be like a few years ago. So, people are testing different marketplaces and different channels to see if they can get a better ROI. Obviously, amazon still has. It's very interesting actually, when we see the Amazon's quarterly earnings report, we see that Amazon is keep growing their profit, number of buyers, their revenue. We see a big part of it from the seller's fees revenue. But there is a fact that Amazon does not want to leave the market share to other players that aggressively come in, especially out of China. We see that a new Amazon program is going to roll out which is Dropshipping from China. I don't think that's a great idea, but I think just Amazon wants to keep it.

Bradley Sutton:

I don't think any Amazon seller is based in the US thinks that's a good idea.

Burak:

Not only Amazon sellers, but I think it's also not fair for other traditional importers who have, like a warehouse people in here. They're paying tax and payrolls. That's my personal opinion. Obviously, it's not a yes or no, white or black topic. A lot of people have their own opinion. But eventually I know that we have some importers, like traditional wholesalers, that their business is down 30 to 40% just because a lot of people buying products directly from China and those companies. Of course they have a cheaper price. They don't have local expenses, all these utility fees, the warehouse rents and et cetera. We all know that it all adds up. So, I think it's going to be a tough uh year for next year for a lot of amazon sellers. That's why I think it's a really good idea to start considering uh different strategies and different plans for uh increasing the revenue and profitability..

Bradley Sutton:

We're heading close to Q4. Um, amazon's made different announcements as far as hey, have your inventory in by. I think one of them was like, if you want it for Black Friday, you got to have it in by October 19th, or something like that. They had said what are your predictions as far as like? Is this year the same thing as every year, where Amazon has a deadline and you got to kind of stick to it, or do you notice anything from some of these announcements where you think there's something that sellers need to be aware of going into this year's Q4?

Burak:

I think last week they announced a new Q4's delivery structure and delivery rules. Some of them are the restriction with FBA delivery appointments, reduction in capacity limits, holiday peak fulfillment fees. So, all these are basically saying that the amazon sellers uh, need to plan better when they're going to send their inventory, how they're going to send it. And you know the thing. What amazon wants you to do is actually send your inventory as early as possible. So, this way they can charge you a lot higher for the fourth quarter, with the maximum amount of, you know, the low inventory fee. Because even if you don't ship it to Amazon, you still pay in that inventory because inventory fee, because Amazon thinks that, hey, I, I allocate some space for you according to your sales history. Now, whether you ship it or not, I'm going to still charge you that. So, we have a lot of sellers. We I think they still don't know exactly how this fee structure is going to work for seasonal products. We had a client they shipped like four or five containers for Christmas lights, Christmas tree decorations. So, they don't have enough space right now in Amazon FBA. So, I think that is a problem for sellers, like they sell seasonal products. So basically, like what amazon is saying versus what they are doing. I think it's a little bit opposite, um, because you cannot really ship as much as you want, but then amazon is saying, hey, send me all this product. I want to charge you more, but same time you cannot do it. So, I don't think there's going to be a big solution for these people. The best to do is create an FPM auction to make sure you don't get charged all these high FBA fees, especially for the long term, and, God forbid if you miss that season. You can't sell out everything and you have some inventory left over. In January you definitely need to take the product back, otherwise your fees are going to be very high.

Bradley Sutton:

In the past you've talked about ways that, without even doing anything, major Amazon sellers can possibly save money, like they're probably doing something wrong or not taking into consideration the right tariff and or you know they're letting their freight forward or take advantage of them in a certain way. Can you remind everybody out there what are some easy steps they can take to save money? You know, without having to completely overhaul their entire system of where they could save a little bit of money potentially here or there, just by maybe doing a little mini audit on their SOPs or something like that.

Burak:

You know, I really think that they should go download their FBA fees and to see how much they're spending on their storage. That's one thing that Amazon is going to hit everyone really bad this year, especially in the fourth quarter. And what is the average age of their inventory stays in the FBA before they sell out. I know that there are a lot of people their sales decrease. I think one of the best ways to do is have a 3PL option. Ship everything to your 3PL and then ship it frequently to Amazon FBA. Because, yes, you will be maybe paying that placement fees but at the same time you can manage your listings somehow. We have seen last year, last quarter, that a lot of shipments delivered to Amazon but Amazon took way longer to check them in. So, we had some clients that they ship product to Amazon FBA. It's delivered but Amazon never checked in. They waited the busy season to pass. So that was pretty bad for some people and they were selling like toys or I remember we had a client that we shipped for them puzzles but Amazon checked them in like very late, so they had to like sell it for a cheaper price. So, you should plan it. Send in your inventory as early as possible on FBA and keep constantly shipping to Amazon FBA to avoid the fees. I think the big saving this year can be from the FBA fees. Obviously check the Freight prices. Compare AGL with other Freight Forwarders to deliver the products instead of one place to five locations. That's a good way to do it. HTS code is a great way to check that. But I think this year's big jackpot is going to be FBA fees.

Bradley Sutton:

We've been going over some beginner strategies, some advanced strategy. But if some of this is a little bit over your head or you want to just get a nice overview for you or your team about logistics and shipping, Burak actually is in Freedom Ticket 4.0. So, if you guys want to have your team go over some of the basics and some advanced stuff, to go into your Freedom Ticket inside of Helium 10 and then click on the week or the group of modules called supply chain and logistics, and then you're going to see some different modules here that Burak has done. That will help you with that. So, make sure anybody who's a Helium 10 member make sure to go into Freedom Ticket and be able to see it. Do you remember some of the other things that you talked about in that module? Just to let people know what to expect in there.

Burak:

I think yes. One of the things that relates to FBA fees are the product size, whether you can make your product smaller so Amazon will charge you smaller tiers. I know that we used to do some free audits for the FBA fees that what we realize is actually customer products are a different size than what Amazon is actually charging them, so Amazon is supposed to charge them lower. So definitely, order your competitor's product to see their packaging so that you can redesign your, maybe package. This is a little bit of my background. I lived in China eight years. I've done a lot of sourcing so I'm kind of familiar with like how to make things like lighter, maybe smaller, maybe if you're paying too high for the duty and tax because your product has a different material. So definitely I would say, order your competitor's product to see the size of the box. Maybe they fold the product, they maybe made it smaller. It's definitely helping to see what are the product sizes, mustard cartons and maybe even labeling and maybe inserting some special cards from the competitors. Obviously not asking five-star reviews, but you could see some other maybe conversions that they are doing, maybe because you have other products in the same category. You don't know whether your customers have them. You know they love your brand or not, but you can actually let them know that you're selling some other products that can be related. So, I think it's a good idea to order a competitor's product to see if you can save anything on the size of the product which can save you money on shipping fulfillment in the 3PL as well as Amazon FBA. So, it could be up to 10% to 15%, which is going to be, when you look at it, annually. It's a huge saving.

Bradley Sutton:

What else do you have for us? We've got sellers of all levels here and I think nowadays maybe people are thinking about some of these newer marketplaces, like TikTok Shop, which now you know, has fulfilled by TikTok and then, and then Teemu is now trying to recruit, you know, US sellers. You know I'm trying to get on the Teemu platform just to just to see how the process goes myself. But what are some things you think you know? When we think multi-channel, you know, gone are the days where people can just say, hey, I'm only going to sell on Amazon, and then maybe there are some days where it's like, oh no, I only need to worry about Amazon and Walmart. So, 2024, 2025, we live. I think it's the year of the many marketplaces trying to make a name for themselves. What are some trends that you're seeing? What is some advice you have for other sellers?

Burak:

You know? I think the Teemu strategy is very different than Walmart. If I want my products because, if you think about it, Walmart has thousands of stores across US and Canada and even in Mexico. Now they're trying to acquire sellers and they have been very active. You know we go to a lot of different events Prosper Show and others. You see that all the time Walmart's booth there. They're trying to acquire D2C brand events like a shop talk and stuff. What I see is, if you want your products to be in a long term, maybe one day a big brand acquires you because you're in a niche category. Let's say you're in a cosmetic, you're doing something maybe just special for lips or for some special type of skin. I don't know. You could be acquired by a big brand if your product can be on the shelves like physical stores. We have so many customers in the past that they started only online but then they were invited to as a test run to start selling on the retailers. Like you know, it could be Dick's Sports, it could be Walmart. If you're in a sports category, you know those retailers are trying to get some good brands on their shelves which can add a lot of value to your branding and people who see you actually on the physical store. They can go and buy online, because I personally love to compare the price in a retailer versus online. It could be Target. It helps you to find and give your brand a big shout out and people can go and find you and then wholesalers can find you. Maybe, like a retailer chain can find you. So, there's actually both options. I think you're right. I mean, there's so many options. It makes really sense to enter all of these platforms to have reached out the maximum amount of audience. But obviously you need to understand how to manage that inventory because different market channels require maybe different UPC codes, which one of our customers? They had an issue. What the UPC codes the factory is putting actually has not been scanned by the retailer. So, the UPC codes was not valid, so they had to bring the products back, relabel it.

Uh, baby steps are good if you're a brand-new seller. Amazon FBA is very good way to start, but maybe it's not that profitable as it, as it used to be. Definitely look for the fpm options and then whatever makes more sense. But I would definitely keep one more sales channel, one more marketplace. Teemu is not the great one yet, because either you need to have a special invite, we have so many people actually asking about the Teemu. Either you have to be invited by a friend or referred by Teemu team directly so you can actually send an email to Temu. But I think in the long term it will be great to invest into your own website because you can easily launch different products. Great to invest into your own website uh, you can do it on Shopify and you know you will have definitely better margins in that and some people they have their own website. They even never want to go to Amazon because they want. They don't want to compete on the price. You, we all know that how amazon works, so it's really a long-term plan. I don't think anyone can really get rich that fast anymore through the e-commerce. I think it's all about branded strategy and it makes more sense to invest in your own website and Shopify. Obviously, amazon has the traffic. It's very hard to bring in traffic. It's not hard but it's going to be expensive in that converting. But, I know that Shopify is working a lot on how to convert more on the products they left in the cart how they can have better conversion. It's very interesting. Recently, I see that installment options pops up on many websites If you're selling an expensive product and I was going to buy a kayak for summertime, it was like $800. I'm like I don't want to pay $800. Then it pops up, hey, you want to pay six times. I was like, okay, but I still didn't buy. But it made me think about okay, that's doable,

Bradley Sutton:

You're a little bit more hesitant.

Burak:

Yes, exactly, you're a little bit more on the fence, exactly so looking for different channels definitely is a good strategy and eventually it's your own business. You know we have seen a lot of changes with Amazon algorithm. Maybe this new AI tool that Amazon is offering actually messes up a lot of people's listings. Have you heard? Have you tried using Amazon AI? Did it affect your ranking on keywords?

Bradley Sutton:

No, I'm not touching that, I don't want. I opted out of that immediately because I don't want Amazon doing anything, because the Amazon AI is nowhere near where it needs to be. All right. So, before we get into your last strategy of the day, just heads up for everybody out there. You want to get some more information about what ForceGet does. Go to h10.me forward slash ForceGet. That'll take you right to our hub website where you can open up a contact with them right there. How else, other than your website, can people find you on the interwebs like Instagram or LinkedIn you want to promote at all?

Burak:

Yes, absolutely, and they can subscribe to my YouTube channel. We are recording a lot of real case studies and scenarios, what's going on and we're going to a lot of different in-person events. We will be in Amazon Accelerate in Seattle. We will go to other events throughout the year so they can come and meet us in person at most of the events, as well as find us on forescan.com.

Bradley Sutton:

All right, what's your last 30 or 60 second tip for our sellers out there?

Burak:

Be careful about your lending costs. That's something that a lot of people they don't really pay attention. Profit is everything. Bad profit means bad cashflow and bad cash flow means that you can't be sustainable in your business. So, understand your lending cost. Look at your FBA fees, how you can save and what is the strategy. Are you paying too much for your international shipments? Are you paying too much for FBA fees? Are you paying too much for long-term storage? So, find out where you can make optimizations, where you can make savings. I believe this business is open to different optimizations and every different aspect you get closer you can find 1% or 2% saving, and if you find three to five different ways of savings, you can save up to 10%. So, talk to the experts. Don't forget to subscribe to the Helium 10's newsletter. I see a lot of interesting topics actually about that. So being part of the community, it's the most important things and whenever you have a problem, ask the right people, get the right answer to fix your problems.

Bradley Sutton:

Awesome. Well, Burak, thank you for coming on here. I'll let you know what I think about those restaurants you told me and then I'll see you at Amazon Accelerate in Seattle and hopefully some other sellers that are listening to this episode, and we'll definitely have you back on in 2025 and let's see what else has changed in the world of shipping logistics.

Burak:

Looking forward to see you, Bradley.

Thursday Aug 29, 2024

Helium 10 Buzz 8/29/24: Amazon Alexa Goes AI | Big Walmart WFS Updates

Thursday Aug 29, 2024

We’re back with another episode of the Weekly Buzz with Helium 10’s Chief Brand Evangelist, Bradley Sutton. Every week, we cover the latest breaking news in the Amazon, Walmart, and E-commerce space, talk about Helium 10’s newest features, and provide a training tip for the week for serious sellers of any level.

Amazon's revamped Alexa with generative AI to roll out in October
https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/smart-home/amazons-revamped-alexa-with-generative-ai-to-roll-out-in-october/

Walmart Marketplace Accelerates Growth; Launches Category Expansion, Multichannel Solutions and Omnichannel Innovations for Sellers
https://corporate.walmart.com/news/2024/08/27/walmart-marketplace-accelerates-growth-launches-category-expansion-multichannel-solutions-and-omnichannel-innovations-for-sellers

How customers are making more informed shopping decisions with Rufus, Amazon’s generative AI-powered shopping assistant
https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/how-to-use-amazon-rufus

How Amazon is using AI to detect fake product reviews and ensure authentic customer feedback
https://www.aboutamazon.eu/news/customer-trust/how-amazon-is-using-ai-to-detect-fake-product-reviews-and-ensure-authentic-customer-feedback

China fast-fashion retailer Temu soared like a rocket for two years—in just a few hours, its parent company lost more than $50 billion in market value
https://fortune.com/2024/08/26/temu-pdd-stock-plunges-government-scrutiny-amazon-rivals/

Amazon India to cut down its selling fees by 12% ahead of festive season
https://www.livemint.com/companies/amazon-india-to-cut-down-its-selling-fees-by-12-ahead-of-festive-season-janmashtami-2024-11724471866431.html

Join Bradley and other Helium 10 Members for an informal meetup in Mumbai early in the morning on Friday the 6th! We will be in the Crystal Lounge networking and would love to see you there! For more details go to: h10.me/mumbai

Catch Bradley at the Istanbul Global E-Export Summit 2024 h10.me/istanbul and at the Amazon Global Selling Community Event PH Seller Bootcamp in Manila h10.me/manila

Lastly, are you leveraging Helium 10 to its fullest potential? We break down the newest features of Helium 10's Chrome extension, including the X-ray tool's suggested PPC bid column and clickable brand insights. Learn how to split-test product images and ideas with real Amazon buyer feedback using Helium 10's Audience tool powered by PickFu, and listen to a special use case from Kseniia that showcases its power in product development. Tune in for all these valuable insights and more to keep your e-commerce strategy ahead of the curve!

In this episode of the Weekly Buzz by Helium 10, Bradley covers:

01:17 - Alexa With AI
03:13 - Walmart Big Announcements
09:09 - Amazon Rufus
12:19 - Amazon Fake Reviews
12:55 - Shipping Time Settings
13:32 - Temu Trouble
14:21 - India Fee Reductions
14:54 - Meet Bradley on the Following Events
16:03 - Helium 10 New Feature Alerts
18:06 - Training Tip: How To Use Helium 10 Audience

Tuesday Aug 27, 2024

#591 - Amazon Keyword Tracker Tool Revamped!

Tuesday Aug 27, 2024

Join us on this episode as we explore the exciting new updates to Helium 10's Keyword Tracker tool. Our host, Bradley Sutton, takes you through the revamped interface, showcasing features like customizable columns and the ability to add notes for tracking changes over time. We also highlight the importance of adding competitors and introduce new functionalities such as the instant index checker and automated Cerebro runs on competitors. Discover how to monitor organic and sponsored keyword ranks over time and leverage brand analytics for top keywords to enhance your keyword-tracking strategy.

Additionally, we navigate the advanced functionalities within the keyword tracking tools, focusing on features like boosting keywords, tagging them for various phases of product launches, and examining keyword sales metrics versus search volume. Learn about the significance of the CPR number tailored to your product, and explore new features like Amazon Brand Analytics for click and conversion shares, as well as tracking keywords by department. We also tackle an open AMA session, answering questions about managing inventory during the honeymoon phase and strategies for maintaining sales momentum. Tune in for valuable insights and practical tips to optimize your Amazon selling experience using Helium 10's powerful tools.

In episode 591 of the Serious Sellers Podcast, Bradley discusses:

00:00 - Helium 10 Keyword Tracker Revamped!
03:00 - Tracking Product Changes in Keyword Tracker
06:30 - New Helium 10 Keyword Tracker Feature Updates
07:06 - Managing Keywords and Notes in Tracker
11:08 - New Keyword Tracker Features Introduced
13:58 - Automating Competitor Analysis in Keyword Tracker
17:27 - Ask Me Anything with Bradley Sutton
22:53 - Adtomic For Amazon KDP
25:38 - Competitor Keyword Sales Analysis With Cerebro

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Bradley Sutton:

Did you notice something new lately in Helium 10? Keyword Tracker got a complete makeover with exciting new features like instant index checker, a list of your top brand analytics keywords, automated Cerebro runs on your competitors in Keyword Tracker, and more. How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. Did you know that just because you have a keyword in your listing, that does not mean that you are automatically guaranteed to be searchable or, as we say, indexed for that keyword? Well, how can you know what you are indexed for and not? You can actually use Helium 10's index checker to check any keywords you want. For more information, go to h10.me/indexchecker.

Bradley Sutton:

Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10. I'm your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is the show that is our monthly Ask Me Anything and special training, and this month we have a special reveal about phase one of our new Keyword Tracker launch. So let's go ahead and hop into this. This was recorded live, so I'm also going to have some of the questions that you guys answered. Let's go ahead and hop into it. We are going to now get into the new Helium 10 Keyword Tracker. This is just the beginning. All right, I've been teasing this for months and months. Now there's some symbolism going with my wardrobe today for those watching this on YouTube or watching this out there. You'll notice I have the OG Helium 10 logo. Okay, so this is the original Helium 10 logo from you know that got started in 2016, 2017. And then my hat is the new Helium 10 logo right? And that's symbolic, because Keyword Tracker is one of the first tools that came out in 2017 and hasn't had, like any earth shattering design changes or things like that for a long time. And now you know, now we're bringing it to the new Helium 10. What are the new features? Let's go ahead and hop right into it.

Bradley Sutton:

Let me go ahead and share my screen, okay. So here we go guys, you should already have this new Keyword Tracker window. All right, this is how Keyword Tracker should look. What is new? The first of all, obviously, the whole look and feel of Keyword Tracker is different. If you don't have that, you should have a button up here that says try the new Keyword Tracker or something like that. All right, for a little bit of time. You're going to see a button that says go back to the previous Keyword Tracker. I wouldn't recommend doing that, because you know it's, you're going to have to go to this new one. Anyways, you can see up here at the top, just like before, how many keywords according to your plan you've used, and I have 30 out of my 500 boost used. You still have similar buttons up here like customize. Actually, this is new. If you hit the customize button, you can now choose which columns. You see you couldn't do that in the old Keyword Tracker, so I right now I have everything included. All right, I'm looking at all columns and there are some new columns that Keyword Tracker has never had. All right, so that customize button put what you want, like maybe you don't care about when, the date that it was added, all right, well, you can go ahead and take that column off now with the new Keyword Tracker. If you want to add a new product to Keyword Tracker, just right here, at the very top right of Keyword Tracker, there's a button that says add products. All right.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, once you have all of your products here, without expanding it out, you've got a lot of information. First of all, something that I highly recommend, something brand new you can add notes, okay. So adding notes is important because now you can like tag it on a certain day, all right. So I could say, hey, today is 8/13 on this ASIN, I am doing a certain kind of test in PPC, or I lowered my price and then I can make a description here. And so now, later on, if you're tracking your keyword ranks and things like that, now you can see oh, on this date, I raised my price. What happened to my keyword rank after? Oh, on this date, I increased my sponsored ad target bid and did that improve my sponsored rank? Did it make my sponsored rank worse? You can start tracking a lot of these things. I mean, hopefully you guys were tracking this stuff already, but now it's a little bit easier because you're going to be able to graph it. All right, this is going to show me the track keywords. If I want to add more keywords, I just hit this edit button right here. Adding competitors all right. This is if you didn't add competitors before. Guys, I highly highly recommend adding competitors to your Keyword Tracker. It doesn't cost you any more money and I'm going to show you why that is so important.

Bradley Sutton:

Moving forward, here's something that is still the same as the old Keyword Tracker. It's going to show you the number of organic keywords in the top 10 and their combined search volume, and the number of organic keywords in top 50. You can actually now hit a graph and see the history over time. How many top, how many of your track keywords have you had in the top 10 over over time? How many have you had sponsored over time? You can see that right here. Now, here's another thing you can see now how many Amazon's choice keywords you have. The last time Helium 10 checked that's something that's net new, I believe, where it's going to let you know hey, for this product, six of your keywords have Amazon's choice badge for that keyword. Pretty cool, right. Another cool new thing brand analytics top click keyword. How many of your keywords that you're tracking, were you last week one of the top three clicked in all of Amazon for that keyword? That's pretty cool, right. And then not only that, now you hit this button you're going to see a history of that for your product and the keyword. So now you can see, like all right, hey, every week I'm usually one of the top three clicked on 10 products or 12. And now, all of a sudden, one week, you see you're down to three. Well, what would that make me do? I'm going to go in there and see where did I lose being one of the top three? Click what's going on? Did I lose my keyword rank? That's brand new. Another thing is going to be keyword suggestions. I'm going to talk about that in a little bit. That's something new and that is why you guys need to put your competitors in there. I'm going to talk about why.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, another cool thing you're going to start seeing now the category and subcategory BSR of your product. If you're tracking your product or your competitor's product as the seed product, you're going to now see the graph of BSR right here and you're also can now tag your keywords here with different tags. This is a tag for product. Okay, there we go, guys. This tag here is for the product. So maybe, watch this. I'm going to be like hey, Manny's mysterious oddities, I want to add that tag. All right, so now I'm going to be able to tag this coffin letter board as Manny's mysterious oddities and then, with this one click at the top, now I'm going to be able to go to those products. All right. The other thing I can have here and I can sort by is the date that I added this product to Keyword Tracker. This is another thing that's kind of net new. Okay, now let's dive into the actual keywords. All right, so you hit this button right. Or, by the way, you could actually run Cerebro from Keyword Tracker. Now you just hit these three dots that are right next to the picture and you can actually run in Cerebro. All right, and you can run your product in listing analyzer as well. But right now we're going to hit this down arrow so we can see all of these new tabs right here in the keyword details.

Bradley Sutton:

Okay, and here we go. All right, so first of all, you'll see, I don't know why it's blue. I've been telling him to change that to red, so hopefully they're going to change the boost back to red. But you can see, here in blue I have a few keywords on boost. Boost is still working the same way. Now, another thing you notice is do you see that there's a number here for each one? What this is is like the number of when I added this keyword to Keyword Tracker. If I want to change the order of how it is and I don't want it to go by alphabetical or I don't want to sort it by this, I don't want to sort it by that. This is pretty cool because now I can just change this number right here. Okay, and then now that is going to change the order in which the keywords appear in Keyword Tracker. All right, so pretty cool. Another thing I can add the notes at the keyword level. All right, so I can add notes at the product level. I showed you guys that I can add notes at the keyword level now. So again, marking when I change something on a certain keyword, like maybe sometimes I'll do tests where I'm like you know what I want to insert this keyword into my title and then does that help my rank over a week or so. Well, I'm going to add that as a note, the date and time that I actually did that, so then I can go back and graph and see what happened.

Bradley Sutton:

I mentioned tags for keywords. We had tags for products. This is tags for keywords. So this is a product. This is a coffin letter board. You guys can see this on Amazon. Now I'm going to do a whole podcast about it in Maldives, about the Maldives honeymoon strategy. But you can see, I'm literally in launch right now in my fate, what I call phase one launch. So I gave a tag to all of these keywords. So then later I could just hit this button right here this is my tags and then it's only going to show the keywords that I have a certain tag on it. So maybe I have phase one launch, maybe I have a group of keywords that I'm doing a PPC test on, or whatever. This will allow you to quickly go and go directly to whatever group of keywords that you have Search volume, competing products, organic rank history these are all pretty much the same. The graphs might look a little bit different, but it's basically the same thing. Let's go in and take a look at one of the graphs here just to see how different it is. All right, yeah, it's pretty much the same. You can see here I can click and drag and zoom in. It's pretty much the Keyword Tracker that you guys know and love. We've got keyword sales. Remember, guys, last week I talked in depth in our weekly buzz about why this keyword sales metric is more important sometimes than the search volume metric.

Bradley Sutton:

We've got the CPR number here. The CPR number is based on your product, your exact product. This is where the CPR number is based on your product. If you look at CPR and Cerebro, it's just a general CPR number. This one is based on your product. We've got the suggested PPC bid in here, and then something new we've got the brand analytics total click share and total conversion share. Okay, so this is directly from Amazon brand analytics. Now you can see the history of what are the top three clicked products for this keyword that you are tracking in Keyword Tracker. What was the top three click products share of the conversions? In addition, another net new thing here is the department. So you know how sometimes you're on Amazon and you type in a search. You know what. Let's look at that now. Let's actually type, or let's go to Amazon. Let's hit Gothic Decor. By the way, guys, if you guys were watching, if you want to look at the search results of any keyword that you're tracking, just hit this arrow button right next to the keyword and it's going to take you to the search right there on Amazon. Okay, now you can see here how, in Gothic decor, it now shows which departments the results are in. Well, we are now showing that in Keyword Tracker. And so what happens is is we are taking that into consideration. Right here on the last column you will see it say under departments how many categories it's under and which categories those are. So it gives you a little bit of extra kind of like you know information there.

Bradley Sutton:

There's a whole bunch that's coming. I'm not done here, but we're going to have an index checker button. Like, for example, if you notice all of a sudden you are not ranking organically, you are not ranking and sponsoring, what is the next step? Well, the next step is usually hey, I need to see, did I lose indexing for this keyword? Have I lost indexing? Well, there's going to be a one-click button. Instead of having to copy those keywords, export it to index checker, you are going to have an index checker right here in Keyword Tracker so that you can, within seconds, know is it just that you lost ranking or did you lose indexing as well? Super, super important. All right, so that's coming, we're going to have. I told you guys, a long time ago people were asking for those heat maps of ranks, just like our Market Tracker 360 tool has. Well, heat maps are coming here. But one thing that's important oh, by the way. There's a customize for which columns you want in your Keyword Tracker and watch this. Here is something that is new for organic rank. Maybe you want to see the rank, like you always have. Now you can toggle what page are you showing up. Maybe you don't care about your specific rank, but you're just like hey, I want to see how many keywords I have on page one, how many are on page two, how many are on page three. Take a look, you can toggle your rank to go from rank to page. That's pretty cool, right? That's something that a lot of our not a lot, but you know, otherwise we would have done it earlier, but a number of you were asking us and it finally got done. It was on our list for a lime, all right.

Bradley Sutton:

So one thing that I want to go over is the suggestions, all right. So first of all, here's, let me go to a product that I actually have suggestions for. Yes, here we go. I've got one competitor for some reason. Here's. Here's one that I have five competitors. This will be a better one, all right. So, again, make sure to add the competitors. That should be one of the first things you guys do. Here we go for the bat shelf. I've got compared. Let me just take a look at who my competitors are Other bat shelves. Okay Now, by the way, remember how I told you that we are showing you which keywords, or how many keywords, you have. That is one of the top three clicked. Well, the way that you know it is, there's going to be an ABA and a number one, number two or number three. That's the symbol that lets you know if last week you were one of the top one, two or three products that were clicked from that search page. But anyways, this is showing me the ranks of all of my competitors. You guys see that here, all of my competitors, I know it's kind of hard to see, all right, so this is my bat bath mat and here are all of my competitors, and now I can see if they are ranking or not. Where is their average rank? How many of them are ranking? Like, for example, this is a keyword that's pretty important, right? Bat mat. This is a bat shaped bath mat. Bat mat obviously is a keyword I want to check and so I can see only three out of my six competitors are ranking for it, but the average rank is 25. So they're pretty much maybe most of them are on page one, if not all.

Bradley Sutton:

Okay, I also have the competitor performance score. This is the key. This is the way that I can see which are the most important keywords to my niche. Right, it's the same metric that comes from Cerebro, and so the high competitor performance score means that most of your competitors that you entered are all ranking for that keyword, and they're all ranking highly. That's what gets you a 10 out of 10. All right, so look at that. These are all completely new things that Keyword Tracker has never had. Okay, now let's go right here to suggested keywords. By the way, you saw that I was looking at organic rank for my competitors. I can also look at their sponsored rank too, under suggested keywords. This is going to be something pretty cool. This is very similar to what we had in our insights dashboard. Once I add my competitors, now I can customize my settings and I can almost kind of like automate Cerebro guys right here in Keyword Tracker. So I could be like hey, you know what my competitors? I got five of them. I want to know if there is a keyword that has at least 500 search volume and my rank is between zero and zero meaning I'm not ranked at all and at least one of my competitors right here minimum one has the organic rank between one and 20. I want a suggestion. So, in other words, what this means is I'm basically automating Cerebro and I'm telling Keyword Tracker hey, watch my competitors, so I don't have to run them in Cerebro, and if they start ranking for a keyword on the first page in the first 20 positions and I'm not ranking at all, give me a notification. That's just an example. I could put any anything in here. I could be like hey, give me a notification if my rank is between 40 and 300, but but their rank is one in 40 or one in 39. Right? So in other words, hey, show me the keywords where I'm not on page one and where they are right. I could do a lot of those options.

Bradley Sutton:

Another thing is I could run Cerebro on my own product in the background, like I. Obviously, when I started Keyword Tracker, I probably had a good idea of what my main keywords are. But, as you know, I hope you run Cerebro on your own product like once every two weeks or once a month to see hey, you run Cerebro on your own product, like once every two weeks or once a month, to see, hey, am I ranking for new keywords that I didn't even realize I was relevant for? Is Amazon showing me highly in sponsored rank, where I didn't even know that the auto campaign was showing me for? Well, you know what? Go ahead and set this notification in Keyword Tracker where you can say hey for any keyword that has at least 300 search volume, where my organic rank is between one and 30, give me a notification that tells me that I should probably track this keyword and we'll give you that notification as a suggestion. All right, so that's what suggestion means. And then. So now I can look at the suggestion, knowing that the only way that it was triggered is if something hit those rules that I put. All right, but right here I'm going to be able to see hey, which keywords do I want to start tracking? There's probably some, some more things that I'm missing here, but this is just the beginning. Make sure you are using this new Keyword Tracker and the new features. Every single one of the new features I went over is designed to give you insights that can help you make more money, help you optimize your listing more, help you track what is going on with your competitors. So I want you guys to make sure to use all of those features.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, this part of the show when we do this once a month is a completely open AMA. So you guys can ask me anything about Helium 10, maybe even a couple Amazon questions, if you, if you want, if I, if we've got the time, um. Or it could be about this new Keyword Tracker. Okay, let me see we've got one from Jay here. It says for someone starting again selling on Amazon after five years oh, wow, what a what a long time between selling Um, where would you recommend to start from in order to learn how to use a software? I'm really lost with this. All right. So, Jay, if, if, if you're talking about where to learn how to sell on Amazon, we just barely launched a brand new Freedom Ticket. So even if you were selling five years ago, trust me so much has changed on Amazon I highly recommend going through the Freedom Ticket. So if you're a Helium 10 member, which I'm assuming you are it sounds like when you say software, there you have access 100% to Freedom Ticket. Five years ago when you remember you probably had to pay a thousand dollars for Freedom Ticket. Not anymore. You have. You have it covered for free. So go into Freedom Ticket. Take that to see what's new on Amazon.

Bradley Sutton:

The second thing to learn how to use the tools, go into the learn button in every tool. All right, just take a refresher course. Or if you just want to knock it all out in like three hours, you can go to a completely free website, academy.helium10.com. academy.helium10.com it has all of our tool software training videos all in one place. You could probably knock it out in two hours. Maybe three hours if you're just watching at one X speed, uh, but if you're two X in me, you can probably watch it in like one hour or an hour and a half. All of those videos and I'll give you a good refresher course on how to get reacquainted with Helium 10. And then, like I said, Freedom Ticket is going to give you a nice uh refresher course on how to get reacquainted with selling on Amazon and Walmart, and we even have now stuff that we definitely didn't have years ago, when you were around, Jay, like um, lessons on how to sell on tick tock shop, so pretty cool. Christopher says what's the best strategy for running out of inventory, especially if you're still in the honeymoon phase? Is there a module about it in the new Freedom Ticket? I don't remember if I put a module about it. But basically, um, obviously you don't want to run out, but do not try to slow your sales and slow your momentum or raise your price if your conversion rate goes down Now. If you can raise your price and still get the same amount of sales I mean regardless of if you have inventory now of course you should raise your price and get more profit, right. But don't be the kind of people who try to raise your price in order to slow sales because you're shooting yourself in the foot just to not run out of stock.

Bradley Sutton:

Amazon is really good lately. If you run out of stock and you're only if you're out of stock for like eight months, I mean, first of all, slowing sales down. To run out three weeks later than you would have is not going to help you anyways. But yeah, if you're going to be out of stock for eight months. You're kind of screwed anyways because, yeah, you know Amazon, it might not put you back to where you were, but if you're out of stock for a couple weeks a month even I've been out of stock for two months, even recently because I just had a crazy amount of sales that I wasn't expecting or I had some shipping delays Amazon remembers what you've done. All right, if you're in your forties or fifties, you remember that song from Janet Jackson in the eighties what have you done for me lately? Amazon asked that question. They know what you've done for Amazon lately. If you are a high performing keyword or a high performing product for a certain keyword, Amazon remembers that and you're not. If you're a page one, position three and you're out of stock for a month and a half, does that mean you're immediately going back to page one position three? No, probably not. But it just takes a couple of orders, like in PPC, at the top of search, and Amazon will put you like right back up. A lot of times Now, on some of those products where it might be like 300,000 search volume or some crazy amount of sales, right Okay, that one might be a little bit hard to get back to top. It's not going to get to the top with just two or three orders, but, yeah, like it's not as critical as it was in the past where you lose your ranking permanently or something crazy. That would happen to some people, like five, six years ago, if you went out of stock.

Bradley Sutton:

Another thing to keep in mind, too, is you run out of stock fast. It's not always a bad thing, remember, if you have a lot of sales, you have a period of time where you have low stock. That's actually a bad thing. You are going to get a low inventory fee. That's one of the new fees that Amazon put out is, if your inventory total for a certain time period dips under a threshold, you're going to get charged for every order that you have. Okay, if you have zero inventory, you run out. Well, at least you're not being charged. You know that fee. Again, don't get me wrong, don't run out. You know you should not run out, but don't do things to slow your sales. If you're going to run out, go ahead and run out at the whatever velocity you have, because that's what helping your keyword rank, how you convert for that keyword and then, um, as soon as you get back, you know, do a big push like don't put your, your product live until it's distributed across the country. So make sure to use Helium 10 inventory heat maps so you can see as Amazon distributed amongst other warehouses. And then go live, go heavy on PPC, maybe have a big discount a little bit to like really get that momentum going to remind amazon who you were and you should get back to page one for your keywords that you were page one for before.

Bradley Sutton:

Kyle says can you talk a little bit Adtomic and how I can use it as KDP? So I don't think you can use it yet on KDP, but when you can, as long as the API is very similar, it's going to be very similar. Like I run 200 campaigns on my Adtomic for regular products, not KDP products, regular physical products. And the beauty about it is I can have suggestions where I'm like hey, if I have an auto campaign going and I get two keyword conversions at a certain ACoS, I want you to tell me to move that to my manual campaign. Hey, if I get, I can put rules. Or I can be like hey, if I get 20 clicks on this keyword and no sales right and I've spent more than ten dollars, you know what I want a negative match that keyword. I can automate that or I can just have it, uh, set a rule where it tells me hey, you got 20 clicks over this period of time that you specified. You wanted me to let you know that this happened. Do you want a negative matches, yes or no? I just hit one button and I say yes, now it's negative match.

Bradley Sutton:

I can run analytics across all of my campaigns. You know, like I said, I've got 200 campaigns where I can put a query saying, hey, show me all of the search terms that I have less than four, or all the targets where I have less than 4% ACOS. Right, with at least one sale. Obviously you have to have a sale to have ACOS. But you know, then, now, instantly, all of those keywords across all 200, 200 of my campaigns will show up. I can just go ahead and just blanket re increase the bid on all those I'll be like ahead and just blanket re increase the bid on all those I'll be like you know what, raise the bid on all of these that I'm below 4% a cost. Raise my bid by 20%. Two clicks of a button, I mean, these kind of things take forever to do by yourself or something kind of stuff. You have to pay agencies, you know $1,000 a month to do. You can have that kind of like all inside of Adtomic. So that's how I use Adtomic and I would assume that once it's fully integrated with our KDP community, you're going to have very similar features as well.

Bradley Sutton:

All right, what other questions, guys? We got about five minutes left here I can go. It's 11.15 PM, so if anybody's in the US at this time of day? Thank you so much for joining. I used to do this back in the day. We used to call it midnight madness. I would just go randomly live at like midnight. Um, today was half accident. This was supposed to be at 10:15 am and my team said it at 10:15 pm. So that's why I'm up at this at this time of day. But I'm happy that I could uh talk to different people, because usually it's a lot of the same people I see in the chat, but today's all new people. Kyle says can you tell me a little bit about the CPR score and how accurate is is in Cerebro. So the CPR is basically the number of units over eight days that you should sell after somebody finds your product in search for that keyword either organic or sponsored over eight days, that gives you the best chance to stick on page one. Doesn't guarantee it, but it gives you the best chance. It was a formula that I came up with, uh, two years ago. The latest version I I did, or no, it was last year, uh, a year ago was the latest version. We've updated it three or four times in the last six years, um, but basically it's gives you a guide of like, hey, what is it going to take to get on the top, as close to the top of page one as possible for the keyword that you're trying to rank for? That's as easy as I can kind of like dumb it down of what it is, and it's a number over eight days. So if you have a keyword like I'm looking at a keyword right now, um, batmat and the CPR number is eight, that means you know the search volume is so low. If I get eight purchases, if somebody searched the word batman and bought a product eight different people over eight days I have a pretty darn good chance to get to page one. That's basically what it means there.

Bradley Sutton:

Here's a question from Instagram. Grow with Daniel says is there a possibility to check on which keyword per competitor is getting sales? Which keyword per competitor? Yes, so I mean, if I'm understanding Daniel, your question is like hey, uh, which keywords are driving sales to your competitor? Absolutely, you just run Cerebro. Okay, there's two, there's two ways you can. You can know about it. You run Cerebro for your competitor and look at anything over 500 search volume where they're ranked between like one and 10, you know they're getting sales for that keyword or they have gotten sales for the keyword, unless it's a brand new product. You don't get on the top 10 search results without at some time having you know some sales and the higher the search volume, the more sales it is that it took to get there. You can also run it in brand analytics. We have that in Black Box, brand analytics, where you put the ace in and now you can see, hey, your competitor, where were they one of the top three clicked? And then, if they were one of the top three click, did they have conversions for that keyword and how much percent of those conversions? You can have that fully in Helium 10 as well. Oh, and now he says, except using Cerebro I mean Cerebro and Black Box. Uh, those are the two ways to do it inside of Helium 10.

Bradley Sutton:

Jeffrey says, like Cerebro, Black Box, Magnet to see the ABA and keyword sales sold now for ABA. You now have access to that, Jeffrey. Like that's, we always bring stuff down to platinum. So that used to be diamond. Only the brand analytics data in Cerebro and Magnet now is in platinum. So you've fully got access to that. Now black. There's one tool in Black Box, yes, that that platinum members don't have access to, and that is the Black Box brand analytics tool. So, yeah, that is not available separately currently, but you know, who knows, maybe in the future it could be. And I swear that keyword sales also was brought down to platinum. I think you might check it, Jeffrey, you might have keyword sales. If you're based in the US and you're looking at Amazon USA data, you might have the keyword sales there.

Bradley Sutton:

This presentation is what we do once a month where we have a training on some kind of aspect of Helium 10. And then we have an open. Ask Me Anything. So when you guys see the invite to this. Make sure to join up next time those of you listening to this on the replay or watching this on the podcast or on YouTube later on. We'll probably do one or no, probably. We will do one in probably late September or middle of September, so make sure to sign up early. That one will probably be like in the AM Pacific time instead of PM, like this time, but we, you know, make sure to join live so you can get your questions answered. This is what I do for Helium 10 Elite twice a week at times, but once a month we go ahead and open this up to everybody. So I really appreciate everybody joining us at this time of day and I wish you guys the best of success and please let us know what you think of phase one of our new Keyword Tracker. Thanks a lot, guys.

Saturday Aug 24, 2024

#590 - Who has the Most Accurate Amazon Search Volume?

Saturday Aug 24, 2024

Join Bradley Sutton in this episode of the Serious Sellers Podcast as we explore the vital importance of search volume metrics for Amazon sellers. We'll reveal why accurate search volume data is crucial for making informed decisions on listing optimization, PPC campaigns, and more. We'll discuss how to gauge demand in a niche and prioritize keywords effectively, while also addressing the limitations of Amazon's own search volume metrics.

Listen in as Bradley addresses the misinformation circulating in the industry, particularly a misleading LinkedIn post comparing search volumes from Helium 10, Data Dive, and Jungle Scout. The episode highlights the flawed methodologies used in such comparisons and the significant differences between normalized and denormalized search volumes. Bradley clarifies the historical changes Amazon made to its search volume data and emphasizes the importance of fact-checking and accurate representation in tool comparisons.

Lastly, we'll highlight the importance of maintaining civility in discussions about Amazon tools, particularly when it comes to the accuracy of search volume data. After conducting comparison tests, where we matched Helium 10's data against Amazon's only normalized search data, Brand Analytics, Helium 10 achieved an impressive 93.5% accuracy rate. In comparison, Jungle Scout scored 41.9% accuracy when evaluated against Search Query Performance, which uses a denormalized search metric. It's crucial that we provide our audience with reliable information. We are committed to addressing misleading information in future episodes, ensuring that our listeners receive the most insightful and accurate information. Thank you for your support, and stay tuned for more in-depth analysis.

In episode 590 of the Serious Sellers Podcast, Bradley talks about:

01:52 - Accurate Amazon Search Volume Metric Importance
06:30 - Keyword Sales Is The Best Metric
07:11 - Addressing Misleading Information
12:19 - Debunking Jungle Scout’s Blog On Keyword Accuracy Analysis
17:30 - Search Frequency Rank And Why It’s Important
20:27 - Normalized vs. Denormalized Searches
20:58 - The History Of Search Volume In Amazon
21:22 - Understanding Normalized and Denormalized Searches
25:31 - Stop Comparing Apples to Oranges
26:20 - Let’s Do A Real Test
27:42 - How Accurate Is Helium 10’s Search Volume?
29:18 - Jungle Scout and Data Dive vs Search Query Performance Data
32:20 - Confusion Over Jungle Scout Search Volume History
35:45 - Bradley’s Final Message

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Transcript

Bradley Sutton:

Search volume is one of the most important metrics for Amazon sellers to help make decisions like Listing, Optimization, PPC and more. Now, who has the most accurate search volume out there Jungle Scout and Data Dive or Helium 10? Well, spoiler alert in today's case. Today I'm going to show you that Helium 10 wins with a 93.5% accuracy, with Jungle Scout coming in second at 41.9%. How cool is that? Pretty cool. I think. You want to know what keywords are driving the most sales for listings on Amazon. To do that, you need to know what highly searched for keywords the product is ranking for, maybe at the top of page one. You can actually find that out in seconds by using Helium 10's keyword research tool, Cerebro. Now, that's just one of the many, many functions that make this tool my favorite tool in the whole suite, and it's the most powerful keyword research tool ever created for e-commerce sellers. For more information, go to h10.me/cerebro. Don't forget to use the Serious Sellers Podcast discount coupon SSP10.

Bradley Sutton:

Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10. I am your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is the show. That's a completely BS-free, unscripted and unrehearsed, organic conversation about serious strategies for serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. And today, guys, we are going to have a special episode where I'm going deep. I spent a couple of nights without sleep working on this because things got me real riled up on this. All right, this is an important topic to me, and there's just so much misinformation out there that I was like I got to set the record straight.

Bradley Sutton:

Now the question is who has the most accurate search one? Well, of course, the first answer would be Amazon itself has the most accurate, because they're the ones who are providing information. Now, sometimes, though, it's not always the most useful though, like, for example hey, I'm trying to do research into a niche that I'm not selling in. Yet you're a little bit limited with being able to see search volume in Amazon. Search Query Performance for an existing listing. Great, all right. Uh, that shows you denormalized numbers. We're going to talk about what that means a little bit later. But if you're looking at, hey, well, the keywords that I'm getting traction for already, what is my search volume? There's nothing better out of a great apples to apples comparison as that. Now, the drawback there is you can only see what you're already ranking for you can't really like, put in your competitors and see their search volume. But again, obviously this is Amazon's platform. They've got the most accurate search volume. I'm sure they have multiple search volume metrics, some of which Amazon sellers can get at.

Bradley Sutton:

But let's just talk about this. Take a step back. Why is search volume important? Why do Amazon sellers rely on this metric so much? Well, there's a lot of different reasons. Maybe you're just looking for demand in a certain niche, for example. Hey, I'm looking into selling in this category. I don't see many products here with sales, so I can't really estimate demand because there's not enough sales. Maybe it's something newer, but there's a lot of search volume, right, because you could have a lot of search volume for something, but no sales yet because there's no competitors yet. All right, so that's something exciting. That's where search volume could be important. What about you've already decided to make a product right? The number one reason that we need search volume is prioritization. What do I mean by that? Let's say I've identified 200 equally relevant keywords. Obviously, all keywords aren't equally relevant. Let's just play devil's advocate and say we've got 200 keywords. That we've done in all of our keyword research and I need to put them in my listing.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, can you put 200 unique phrases in phrase form in your listing to send those relevancy signals to Amazon, to let Amazon know hey, this is my product. You know, you always want to put your most important keywords in phrase form in your listing. No, you don't have room for 200 separate phrases. You maybe have room for 15, 20, 25. Well, how do you prioritize? Which ones you're going to put in phrase form, which ones you're going to concentrate on? Right, if all things were equal, the one thing that is different is search volume, right? Hey, my most search ones of these equally relevant keywords. That's what I'm putting in phrase form. The most search ones of the most relevant. That's what's going in my title, right? Similar with you. Know, when you're deciding what you're going to do for PPC, hey, am I going to try to equally target all 200 words? No, I might try and like target 20 words at first, 30 words at first. Again, relevancy is the most important. But then the next metric is search volume. All right, you know, I'm not going to try and put a whole bunch of 1 million search volume keywords in one campaign and then another campaign with an equal number of keywords that have 100 search volume. That just wouldn't make sense, right? So, I'm sure all of you would agree with me that a search volume is something that is important. Helps us in many different ways as Amazon sellers.

Bradley Sutton:

Now here's the interesting thing. It's not always the number itself as the most important. When you think about search volume for prioritization, it's really the order in which they're in, right? That's one of the factors, not just the number itself, like, for example, um, you look at google trends, uh, google trends is not search volume, right? People have been using google trends for years and it's a scale of one to 100. Helps you prioritize, right? Brand Analytics, which you guys know I love. You know there's no search volume number in Brand Analytics. That's the data point that amazon gives and has been giving for like what, four or five years now. There's no search volume in there. It's just giving you an order. It gives you search frequency rank.

Bradley Sutton:

You're totally able to prioritize keywords not based on a search volume number. Like, if all you had was Brand Analytics and zero search volume number, guess what You'd be able to do almost everything you do right now, right? Even if there was no Helium 10, no Jungle Scout, no, anything. You just had Brand Analytics, no search volume numbers at all. That's enough information to prioritize. Now you might have to make your own little formulas or something like that to try and see hey, I only want the search frequency rank from, from, you know, 500,000 and up, or 500,000 below, I should say, you know. Or a hundred thousand and below, you know. Of course, you know you might have to do something, but still, you could get around, uh, get along without the actual search volume number. So, it's not necessarily the search volume number that's the most important. Again, it is which ones are searched more in comparison with whatever other keywords you have, right?

Bradley Sutton:

Now, of course, the best way to prioritize even more than just search volume itself or search order, is keyword sales, right? Not all keywords are created equal, right? You could have a 500,000-search volume keyword that generates, you know, the products on the page generate a hundred sales only because there's low, low buyer intent. You could have another keyword that's 500,000-search volume and it could generate a thousand sales because there's a lot more buyer intent. So actually, the best metric, of course, to prioritize if you're talking about, hey, what's going to potentially bring me the most sales is keyword sales.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, are you able to see estimated keyword sales by keyword? Yeah, Helium 10 can help you with that. Jungle Scout doesn't have that. I would assume that Data Dive doesn't. I have access to a Jungle Scout account. I don't have access to a Jungle Scout account. I don't have access to data. I can only monitor the biggest competitors out there. So, Jungle Scout, the last time I checked, no keyword sales. I would assume data doesn't. But if I'm mistaken, I apologize.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, why am I even doing this episode? How did this drama all get started and why am I so worked up? Now, before I even get into this, let me just give a kind of disclaimer here. I'm pretty passionate about this subject. I might get a little worked up in this episode. I hope nobody takes anything personal. I'm even going to blur names over here. People can probably figure out by looking at posts and stuff where the party's involved. But again, I'm not trying to call somebody in particular out. So, I hope this doesn't come off as oh, I'm trying to like fight somebody in the backyard or something like that. All right, I just really get worked up about this kind of topic and when people are throwing Helium 10 under the bus, or when people are misleading others, intentionally or not, who are you know? Known figures like it just bothers me, all right. So again, I'm not going to try and throw any name, drop here personal names. I apologize if anybody ahead of time, if anybody gets offended. I'm just stating the facts. All right, just the facts, ma'am. All right.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, how did this all get started? It all got started with this LinkedIn post. Uh, that's somebody. I have no idea who this person is, I'm not connected to them, but somebody I think they tagged me. Uh, people tag me all the time on LinkedIn. I'm not that great on LinkedIn. I don't do the whole, you know, interaction with other people's posts, like I'm supposed to. But anyway, somehow this post did get on my radar and I have nothing against this guy who made this post. He, he's not an influencer in this space where I could say, oh, he should definitely know better, whatever. But anyways, here is how this post looks like on LinkedIn.

Bradley Sutton:

He was like hey, Helium 10 versus Jungle Scout versus Search Query Performance, comparison of search form. So, when I saw it, I barely skimmed it, because I get so many of these tags every day. I don't interact with hardly any of them, but he was like hey, why does helium 10 display three to four times lower search volume compare to Jungle Scout and Search Query Performance? Bradley, what are your thoughts? Blah, blah, blah. I use 80 keywords to compile the data, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Now, at the time I didn't really even look very closely at this, because I think I saw this graph that he gave and it didn't even show the keywords or anything. I'm like okay, it is what it is. This is just one of those things that I get tagged like on a million times.

Bradley Sutton:

But then what happened later is at the top of my feed, somebody who I am connected to and again is at the top of my feed. Somebody who I am connected to and again who I think is a very, one of the most respectable, uh, respected, people in the space, put out this message where he reposted it and was like hey, this, this dude did an analysis where he did 80 keywords that analyze with Data Dive and Jungle Scout compared to Helium 10. And he was questioning which one is most accurate and I told him to check Search Query Performance. All right, so there's strike one. I'm like why would you do that? What does Helium 10 have to do with Search Query Performance? All right, we're going to talk about that. Why? Why, this is such like a no brainer. Like why in the world is this person doing that? But let me keep going here. He says oh, after doing this, he found that Data Dive was within 5% accuracy for this keyword and Helium 10 had a deviation of 70. All right, this data is crucial.

Bradley Sutton:

So now, all of a sudden, I'm starting to get pissed. I'm like this this is ridiculous. Helium 10 has nothing to do with Search Query Performance. Uh, you know whether Data Dive or Jungle Scout is. You know, we'll talk about that in a little bit. But like, why are you even bringing Helium 10 into this conversation? It's ridiculous that this other guy had mistakenly compared the two, thinking it was the same. But again, he doesn't work for a SaaS company. He doesn't know. You know the ins and outs of he's not monitoring. You know other companies and knows what they base their search volume. But I wouldn’t expect this individual to have no. And I even, when this like, I think you probably want to delete this post, you know, couple of times. I said, I was like, I don’t think this is a good look you know for you to like put out misinformation like trying to say that, oh Data Dive, Jungle Scout is 5% off of this amazon data point, but Helium 10 somehow has that 70% off. But they never took down the post. I’m like alright, that’s when I started not sleeping, like two nights in a row of just like data crunching and preparing for this episode. I'm like all right, you asked for it. Now, again, I told you guys, I wouldn't make it personal, but I get worked up about this.

Bradley Sutton:

Anyways, it wasn't just this, things were escalating even more. Like a high-level executive from Jungle Scout hops on this thread and says, oh, we consistently see similar results in our own validation and hear similar feedback from customers, you know, basically talking about, oh, that Jungle Scout is so close to this Search Query Performance, but then Helium 10 is so far off. Supposedly they validate this all the time. And this is what and they hear this from customers all the time. Like what is going on? More misinformation from somebody who's respected in the industry. Like why are you saying this nonsense? This is happening now.

Bradley Sutton:

But then a couple of months ago, uh, somebody forwarded me a blog, uh, on March 21st, that Jungle Scout put out Jungle Scout versus Helium 10, a comprehensive review. Uh, march 21st, 2024. You see it right here, dun, dun, dun. Like you see the big logos you know, versus each other. Now this blog, anyways, was just, oh, my goodness, there were so many inaccurate things in there, it just boggled my mind, really got me upset, but like I never did anything at that time, it was just all of this now together, kind of like put me over the edge.

Bradley Sutton:

But the one part, that of that blog that has to do with this, was a big section they had on Keyword Accuracy Analysis. Who is more accurate Jungle Scout or Helium 10 for search volume? Keyword search volume information? And look at what they said in this blog. They're like hey, amazon provides Search Query Performance and we found that Jungle Scout was way more accurate than Helium 10's keyword tool. On average, keyword Scout showed a positive 10.93% difference from the search volume provided by Amazon and Helium 10 showed a negative 58% difference. See the info below. And we chose keywords from Search Query Performance. And again, so like hey, if Jungle Scout wants to compare themselves to Search Query Performance, fine, if that's what they're basing their search volume on, go ahead. But why are you bringing Helium 10 into this conversation? Helium 10, uh search volume has nothing to do with Search Query Performance search volume.

Bradley Sutton:

But then I'm looking at this, this, this case study that they supposedly did, and it just didn't make sense. It was like potty pads Helium 10, 11, three, 93 search volume. All right, this is, this is like their big expose to show how Helium 10 is different. Now, first of all, the number is just super weird here. Even according to them, uh, Amazon had 10,000, Helium 10 had 11,000, but somehow the difference was negative, 8%, like we were under. Like that, that's not right, like we're over according to this, but anyways, that's not important.

Bradley Sutton:

I was trying to find out okay, in in Helium 10, we, we have history that goes back five years for a search volume. Okay, I think Jungle Scouts got only has two years, but anyways, Helium 10, 393. I was like, let me try to find where that is. And I kept having to go back and back in time to try and find out when in the heck they were pulling this data. And, lo and behold, I found this 11,393 number on 9/24, wait for it, guys 2022. So, this is a new blog. The date is 2024. And they're pulling some data point from September, like two years ago, two years, literally two years ago. So, I was like, well, that's weird, it did really Jungle Scouts numbers uh, you know, look like this way.

Bradley Sutton:

Back then. Now that's where things started getting weird. I was like this whole article just doesn't make sense because, uh, again, you know, they were saying that, hey, Jungle Scout said 10,800. And so, if they were taking Helium 10 in September of 2022, I was like, well, what really Jungle Scout said, such a close number to search, create performance. So, I look back in Jungle Scout to that same date of September of 2022 and started adding the numbers up. I was like no, look, these are weekly search volume that Jungle Scout is giving and it's like 6,000, 6,000, 5,000. I mean, we're talking like 20, 30,000. Where in the world is Jungle Scout saying that they were 10,800.

Bradley Sutton:

Now I think maybe what happened was, later Jungle Scout changed, you know, after 2022 changed our whole search volume a model, because they made announced that they were trying to follow the search, create performance. So, I'm assuming they did go to like the denormalized number. I didn't realize at the time that they actually backdated and went back in time and maybe changed all their search volume numbers from before Helium 10 numbers don't change once we have the search one. That's there permanently. But anyways, I'm not sure that's the reason, but I could not find where Jungle Scout was 10,800. Because if I went back in time right now using Jungle Scout, it's way more than that.

Bradley Sutton:

But anyways, these things were just like oh, really making me mad. Like LinkedIn, a bunch of people saying these crazy things, and then here's Jungle Scout blogs again. That's what kind of upsets me when people with authority you know who people trust is putting out misinformation to try and pump themselves up. Like, no, if you want to pump yourself up, pump yourself up with facts. Like why are you pulling in wrong information? So now that's when I was like, ok, fine, let me go and do a deep dive no pun intended, on this original guy's post. Well, again, I don't know who he is, I have nothing against him personally, but I'm looking here and, like I said, there was no even keywords mentioned here. So, I was like, well, I can't even double check this information and then just weird things were happening. First of all, you know, remember the other individual who I respect was trying to say, oh yeah, Helium 10 is off by 70%. That's not even what this guy was saying in his post. He was saying Helium 10 was off by 70% from Jungle Scout. I'm like why are we even doing it? Why are you comparing Jungle Scout with Amazon? But then you're just comparing Helium 10 with Jungle Scout.

Bradley Sutton:

And then take a look at this, the way they were calculating the numbers for some of these. He's saying Search Query Performance says zero and Helium 10 and Jungle Scout are saying a certain number, but then somehow that means a Jungle Scout is a hundred percent off. So, if Search Query Performance is saying zero and Jungle Scout says a certain number, that's infinity percent off. You know, like you shouldn't even have counted that, bro, like I don't even know what. That's not the way you do. I'm not a data scientist, I'm not a mathematician at all, but I'm pretty sure you can't just say it's 100% off when you're comparing something with the number zero. But anyway, so his numbers of 5% off for Jungle Scout and 70% off of Helium 10, the whole thing is bogus, right. Like it wasn't an accurate test and he shouldn't have even done it anyways, as I'm going to show in a little bit, because Helium 10, again has nothing to do with Search Query Performance. Now Jungle Scout has said multiple times, even in this thread hey, you know, we're close at Search Query Performance, so go ahead and compare Jungle Scout to Search Query Performance. Guess what I'm about to do that you know in a few minutes here. Uh, so that part was fine. But again, why are you all trying to bring Helium 10 into this conversation? Now you might be wondering well, what is Helium 10 search? I'm going to get to that in a little bit.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, another funny thing about this one you know graph that this guy came up with is the numbers. Instead of showing that, you know, Jungle Scout is so close If you can take this numbers for granted it actually shows that Jungle Scout is way off. Remember I told you, what's more important than the actual number is the order in which, uh, the number of searches is presented. Right, the order, the search frequency, rank. That's the important thing. Take a look at this guy's own graph, like, for example again, I don't know the keywords here because he didn't put it but look at this keyword a, let's just call this keyword a. He's saying Search Query Performance was 6,000. Okay, and this keyword B was 5,000 something. Okay.

Bradley Sutton:

So, you know, if you were going to prioritize one keyword over the other, which one would be the priority. With the actual Amazon data, it would be keyword A right Because it says it has 6,000 search volume. But then look at in his own chart, the Jungle Scout numbers. Or for those same keywords, keyword A only 3,000 search volume. So, the number is far, way, far off. But again, nothing wrong with a number being off. That's not what's important. The importance is the order. But his keyword B Jungle Scouts, keyword B was 4,000 search volume. So, it actually not only was way off in the search form. It was prioritizing the wrong order. So, if you were going by Jungle Scouts, you would have prioritized keyword B, because keyword B has 4,000 search volume and keyword A only had 3000, but guess what? Search Query Performance was completely opposite. So, he thought he was like maybe trying to hype up Jungle Scouts supposedly 5% accuracy but actually he was exposing something where it's off.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, as I started reading this more and I found you know what this entire thing was off because he was taking Jungle Scouts search volume from right now, or you know the last time Jungle Scout checked, which was August 10th. Okay, he was comparing it to Search Query performance all the way from July 1st through the end of July. So, we're not even talking about an apples versus apples comparison here. So, like again this whole original post, kind of like a waste of time here. But what happened was is people started jumping on this and that was what. That was what made me mad and nobody, nobody checked this.

Bradley Sutton:

It's like all these people jumping on this post and say, yeah, this is exactly what we see and we find the same numbers ourselves, and another person said, you know is reposting this and saying look at you know, uh, how accurate Jungle Scout and Data Dive are. But this whole thing was just a ridiculous post in the first place and none of these respected people should have been posting this information. I'm sure maybe I'll do that sometimes, maybe I'll just get so happy that somebody is hyping up Helium 10 and maybe I don't fact check, fact check, uh. But if it has to do with, like throwing a competitor under the bus, you're never going to find me throwing a competitor under the bus If I haven't, like, fact checked everything, like I literally spent the last 48 hours fact checking all of this before I make this podcast here to make sure I'm doing my due diligence and I'm not putting out misinformation, and that's what I would expect others to do as well. But again, you know, regardless of all these numbers being wrong, the whole premise of this was wrong, even if he picked the perfect numbers, because he's trying to compare things to Helium 10, which is based on normalized searches, and Search Query Performance is based on denormalized, and Jungle Scout is denormalized too in day to day because they've been open to say, hey, we're comparing ourselves to Search Query Performance, so they actually said that they were changing to denormalized a couple of like about a year and a half ago. Now let's get a little bit more into the history of search volume on Amazon so you can kind of understand how we got to this normalized versus denormalized. Now Amazon years ago like 2018 around there actually made a search volume that is normalized the actual number that Helium 10 designed its algorithm after it was available in the API to like software tools, and Helium 10 was the very first one to get access to it, and so we've got the most historic search volume data out there Now.

Bradley Sutton:

Normalized means how many times pretty much somebody typed in a search term. So, if I search coffin shelf right now, that's one search. But then if I search that same keyword 10 hours from now, you know within 24 hours the search volume that Amazon counts as normal. Normalized means it still only counts as one. If I click to page two, it only counts for one. If I click back on my browser after I was on page two, it still only counts as one. There's only one search that somebody did in 24 hours.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, denormalized means hey, I search coffin shelf right now, there's one search. I click on a product on that page, I click back on my browser. Guess what that's? Another search. I click another product and I click back. There's another search. There’re three searches. Now I click to page two of the search results. Guess what that's counted as a search. Now we're up to four. Five hours later I come back to my computer and I search again that same exact keyword. Guess what that's five? I hit refresh on my browser for whatever reason. Guess what that's six? So, D? Uh, norm, denormalized means it's counting six searches, six search volume for that one individual, whereas normalized, which is what the original Amazon search volume is based off of, it's only counting one.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, before, when Amazon first started product opportunity explore and Search Query Performance, amazon still was basing their search volume on normalized searches. But then they made this big announcement all over the place in about April May of 2023, that says, hey, we are changing our model. This was plastered all over the place in Search Query Performance we're changing our model to be denormalized, and they explained exactly what denormalized meant, and that was like what I was talking about. And so, what was the difference in the search volume number Once Amazon moved it? I actually have some screenshots. Take a look at this. This is from a post I made because I used to talk about denormalized and normalized all the time. So, here's a post I made in one of our Facebook groups If you look at the coffin shelf niche, all of the keywords put together for 360 days was 85,000 searches. That's the normalized search volume. But then Amazon changed Search Query Performance and opportunity explorer to denormalized and now what was a 360-day search volume? Take a look at this screenshot here 406,000. It was like a five to one difference. Almost you see how big of a difference that made it. When they went to the Dean uh, normalized. And so again, this is why I was thinking that hey, like, hey, every all these respected, you know executives in the industry, they know this stuff. I mean that was all over Amazon. Um, I'm sure they've got to know these things and we weren't keeping, we were not hiding this.

Bradley Sutton:

I would just talk about this nonstop Episode 433 of this podcast. You'll see I talked about the normalized versus denormalized Episode 435 of the podcast, episode 485. I actually had the Search Query Performance team from Amazon come on the podcast and they did a complete breakdown of what normalized versus denormalized meant. Even up to like a month ago I had Mansoor on the podcast he was talking about normalize versus denormalized in episode 584. So, this is not like some industry secret. All right, everybody should know what normalize versus denormalized means and that Helium 10 has always been based on the normalized.

Bradley Sutton:

Now you might ask me like which one is better? Now, that's a subjective thing. Everybody can like their own kind of search volume. But for me I like the normalized searches better because to me that's more of an indication of what I'm trying to get at. I want to, I'm trying to find out how many customers are searching for this product and the normalized will count that one, that search volume, as one, but the denormalized counts it as five or six, just because they're clicking around on the browser. So, to me the more accurate number is the normalized search because you know it tells me hey, in this one instance there's one customer who is looking for it, or there was 100 customers who are looking for it, whereas on the other one I'm not sure how many times somebody was clicking around. That number just is kind of inflated. So that's why I personally like normalized. But hey, if somebody might have a use case for denormalized, I'm not sure what it would be, but let me know why you think that one might be better. Either way, you're still going to be able to prioritize it's. It shouldn't be that far off. But yes, Search Query Performance is going to be different than Brand Analytics, Amazon versus Amazon data, even though it's both from Amazon, because it's normalized versus denormalized. That's why the order is actually different, even when you're comparing those two.

Bradley Sutton:

So again, that's one of the reasons why I was getting so upset that they were all posting about this is because it's not. We're not even talking about comparing apples to apples. It's kind of like in this post, everybody was jumping on the bandwagon and saying, hey, look at, Jungle Scout is a tangerine orange, very close to a blood orange, right, ooh, that's very nice that they're close. Great, you're comparing an orange to an orange, good on you. But then they're coming in and saying, oh, but look, Helium 10 is an apple or a Granny Smith apple. Look how far off it is from this blood navel orange. Like, why are we even comparing this Granny Smith apple? We're not even trying to be an orange, or if there were Jungle Scout orange.

Bradley Sutton:

Anyways, where not even trying to be an orange, were just trying to be an apple that’s all were tying to do. So, why are you trying to bring us into this conversation about oranges, right. So, that was when I became so upset. But now, looks like, you know what, let’s go and let’s do a real test. You know like here, ah, I think we all agree that how bogus is this test that was done was and how useless it is. But like, all right, let’s go ahead and take Brand Analytics. Let’s compare that to Helium 10. Let’s take Search Query Performance, let’s compare it to Jungle Scout. And who has the most accurate search volume. Who has the most actionable search order.

Bradley Sutton:

So, what I did was I spent like much of the last 48 hours just like diving deep into their information. All right, I pulled in the Brand Analytics search frequency rank for 31 keywords that have to do with like coffin shelves and stuff. All right, I took the Search Query Performance from each week though the exact week that matched the Brand Analytics, and then, four weeks, I pulled out all of these keywords one by one, because I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to use pivot tables and V lookups and stuff. So, I took these one by one, the search ones, because remember that one guy's test was based on a number from July. I'm like, no, let's make it apples to apples. Here's Jungle Scouts number as of eight, 10, which is a full month number. Let's take the eight, three to eight, 10 search rate performance. Let's take the seven, 28 to eight, three. Let's add up those four weeks and make it a month and let's compare it. All right. So, I took all of that, I went in and I took all of the Jungle Scout numbers.

Bradley Sutton:

I went into Helium 10 and I took all of the magnet numbers for the search volume and I was like, all right, let's go ahead, put this stuff to the test and then so let's take a look, all right. So, first of all, why do I say, where did I get that 93.5 accuracy for Helium 10? Well, remember, there is no public search volume that you can compare one V one, the number of Helium 10, but what kind of normalized search do we have in Amazon that we can compare with Helium 10 Brand Analytics? So here, the first test I did was I took the Brand Analytics 31 keywords that have to do with coffin shelves and then I took Helium 10 and I got all the search volume of those same exact keywords. And then I sorted Brand Analytics keywords in the search frequency rank order, because that means you know the higher or the lower the number of search frequency rank, the more that it's searched Right. And then I ordered the Helium 10 one in the order of descending search volume order and guess what? It was almost identical. The first 29 keywords was 100% the exact same order. Only on the 20 or the 30th keyword here did things, uh, get out of whack and two of them were flipped coffin pet bed and glass coffin. Helium 10 had in the wrong order compared to Amazon Brand Analytics. So that is a 93.5% accuracy. How cool is that? All right, only two off. So, can you trust Helium 10 search volume? Is Helium 10 accurate a hundred percent? Well, maybe not a hundred percent 93.5%, all right. So there that part of the story is done. Helium 10, 93.5% accuracy. If you're comparing it to the only normalized data point we have, which is Brand Analytics.

Bradley Sutton:

Now what about Jungle Scout? With Jungle Scout, what I did was I took the all of the Search Query Performance for four weeks. Right, I took four exact weeks and added it all up, so we have a full 30 day or one month search volume number uh goth, uh 121,000. Uh, gothic decor a hundred thousand, so on and so forth. And then I took the Jungle Scout search volume from the tool, their 30-day search volume. So here in Jungle Scout you can see where I got that information of 83,903. This is the exact search volume 30 day for the keyword goth. And if I actually click on their details, I can see when that date was from, because the very last date that they have in the system is August 10th. Okay, so we are like on a apples to apples comparison here, because search group performance was also based on the week, the month ending October or August 10th.

Bradley Sutton:

And so, the first thing, remember Jungle Scout data dive. Everybody loves to compare. Jungle Scout is so accurate compared to a Search Query Performance. Let's look at the raw number. Remember, spoiler, like I said before, like I don't think the number is the most important thing, but if you guys are going to flaunt your uh accuracy, is that really true? Let's take a look. If you compare the month search volume of Search Query Performance versus Jungle Scout, on average, look at this it's 44% off, 46% off, 44% off, 71% off, 84% off. As a matter of fact, on average, it's a total of 34.5% off. Okay, 34.5% off is the number, but what? What if you say, okay, forget about the search volume number? You know search volume, you know? Actually, I don't think that 34.5% is that bad. If something has 10,000 searches and then it really has 7,000, is that the end of the day? You know, probably not right, but again, I'm just calling this out because they're trying to say, oh, our numbers and our data shows that we're 5% off. You know always. No, all right.

Bradley Sutton:

Now the other thing is remembered I said that search position, the order of search, is actually arguably more important than the search volume. So how off was Jungle Scout compared to Search Query Performance? The very first 11 keywords, Jungle Scout was 100% on, but then things got off the rail, and almost every other keyword was out of order. For example, coffin box was the 17th most searched term for Jungle Scout, but it was the 12th most searched term for Search Query Performance. And that is where I got the number of 41.9% accurate, because only 13 out of 31 had the right order of keywords 41.9%. How many did Helium 10 have when compared to Brand Analytics? 29 out of 31, which is the 93.5%. So again, whose search volume is more accurate between Data Dive and Jungle Scout and Helium 10? Helium 10 wins with 93.5% and Jungle Scout with 41.9%.

Bradley Sutton:

But then something was bothering me. Let me show you exactly what I mean. So, what was bothering me was when I looked at the Jungle Scout search volume history, I noticed that week by week, they actually had a weekly search volume, which I thought was actually pretty cool. I was like, oh, that's nice, they give the exact search volume for 30 days, but then weekly. But then it didn't add up. Like if you add up these last four weeks it does not add up on Gothic Decor to 68 000. Like wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense. How can the week uh be different? I was thinking, oh, maybe, maybe you know it's 28 days and so they need to. You know there's two days extra and I couldn't get it to like Jive.

Bradley Sutton:

But then I figured out what Jungle Scouts doing and they're actually doing something similar to Helium 10. They're actually basing their monthly search volume on a weekly velocity of the last day, the seven days, which is actually, actually, like I said, that's what Helium 10 is doing and that's good on Jungle Scout for figuring that out. That’s the best way to present it. But you know you might be confused if you might think that Jungle Scout was doing something weird in the numbers, because the monthly doesn't add up to what the weekly is. But watch this. This is what I figured out. Look at, the very last week of this Gothic Decor keyword had 15,982. If we take 15,982 divided by seven days, and then we multiply that by 30 days seven days, right. And then we multiply that by 30 days, that is the number 68,494. And that's what their exact search volume for the full month is.

Bradley Sutton:

So, then I thought, wait a minute, maybe I was shortchanging Jungle Scout on this. I was just taking their, their number at raw data, their exact 30-day number, and comparing it to 30-day Search Query Performance. But if the real number is the week search volume because that's what it seems like they're basing their whole month off, I should just be comparing apples to apples and compare their latest week to Search Query Performance, latest week, right, again, if they're trying to be Search Query Performance, that would be a better comparison. So, I was like, oh, who knows, maybe the numbers are going to look better, did it? Let's take a look.

Bradley Sutton:

The first thing that I tested was just the percentage off on the week. So again, I'm comparing the Jungle Scout super specific week number with the Search Query Performance week number and it was off 48%. It was 48% lower than Search Query Performance. I'm like, nope, no help there, this is actually worse. This actually made it worse Now that I got the real number because, remember, their month data, for whatever reason, was only off by 34%. This is off by 48%. So, then the next thing, I was like, okay, well, let me go and maybe the order is a little bit better. You know how? For from the, if I'm comparing the one week to the other week, is the order of the search volume at least better than before? Nope, 35.4% accuracy.

Bradley Sutton:

Jungle Scout and Data Dive versus Search Query Performance, even when you're just comparing the week. So, no matter what way you spin this around, well, no matter what way you look at it, Jungle Scout and data diver just way off from Search Query Performance. Now, I don't mean to sound like I'm exaggerating. I've said this a few times before. I don't think numbers being far off is that big of a deal. Like, if you're 30% off, you're within the realm of possibility. But again, I'm bringing this out because, oh my God, do you know how many, how many blogs Jungle Scout has come out with saying oh, we are 5% more accurate than Helium 10, 11%. This is a big deal. And they're making a big deal out of 11% or something which I don't agree with those numbers in the first place. But even so, how can they be saying that when all their search volume numbers are literally 30% off and Helium 10 is 93% accurate? So anyways, guys, hope you guys stuck with me to the end.

Bradley Sutton:

I usually don't get so worked up like this, but I used to argue on the internet all the time. That was how I got discovered at Helium 10 was. I would always go on Facebook groups and start arguing with people who had misinformation, and I I've kept to myself for a while, but I just this, this just latest uh episode just kind of upset me and I was just like I just want to set the record straight again. I don't have anything personal against anybody involved in this this. You know people writing the blogs or the, or the people you know posting on LinkedIn and stuff. But it's my advice to every you know people out there who are respecting you know like there are people you know I guess I'm one of them Like is it still kind of strange for me to think like that?

Bradley Sutton:

But if you're a public figure in the Amazon world or any world, be careful what you post. You know, like be proud of your company. Nothing wrong with that. I mean you, you you've worked really hard to build up your company in the Amazon ecosystem. By all means, be proud of it. You know, um, I'm proud of my company.

Bradley Sutton:

Otherwise, why would I put a Helium 10 logo on my basketball court and do all the other crazy stuff? I do nothing wrong with being proud of your company, but don't put out misinformation just to. You know, kind of like elevate your company, or I would hope that nobody even here is doing that purposely, but then the alternative if it wasn't on purpose. It means that you're just like not even fact-checking and not even making sure that you're putting out the correct information, because you just want to, you know, hype yourselves up and try and throw Helium 10 to the bus. It doesn't even have to be Helium 10.

Bradley Sutton:

I don't care who we're talking about. It could be Jungle Scout versus Data Dive or whatever comparison you're going to do. Guys, just let's keep it civilized. Talk about facts if you want to talk about facts, but don't try and sensationalize certain things and paint the wrong picture, because people listen to those of us who have these kinds of platforms on the internet and they take our word at face value, and so that's a heavy responsibility.

Bradley Sutton:

And I'm not saying to totally misrepresent the entire way that a company does things or misrepresent my own accuracy, you know, and just hope that nobody calls me out on it. But anyways, um hope you guys found this interesting because, like I said before, search volume is important and you got to know who you can trust, and I think it's hands down. This has proven that. Hey, you are going to be able to trust Helium 10 with your search form, because we've got the most accurate out there at 93.5%. So, um, thank you guys for tuning in, and I'm going to do some other exposés now because I'm still riled up about some of these crazy blogs. It's time to set the record straight. But hope you guys enjoyed this episode and we'll see you in the next one.

Friday Aug 23, 2024

Helium 10 Buzz 8/23/24: Big Amazon Coupon Update | FTC Fake Review Crackdown

Friday Aug 23, 2024

We’re back with another episode of the Weekly Buzz with Helium 10’s Chief Brand Evangelist, Bradley Sutton. Every week, we cover the latest breaking news in the Amazon, Walmart, and E-commerce space, talk about Helium 10’s newest features, and provide a training tip for the week for serious sellers of any level.

YouTube takes on TikTok Shop with expanded Shopify partnership
https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/20/youtube-takes-on-tiktok-shop-with-expanded-shopify-partnership/

Walmart adds a Burger King benefit to its membership program
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/22/walmart-plus-burger-king-benefit.html

Shein sues Temu over copyright infringement, alleges rival loses money on every sale
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/20/shein-sues-temu-over-copyright-infringement-trade-secret-theft.html

FTC finally makes a sneaky online shopping tactic illegal
https://www.thestreet.com/retail/ftc-online-shopping-tactic

Temu’s Semi-Hosted Japan Site Will Officially Launch on August 27
https://pandaily.com/temus-semi-hosted-japan-site-will-officially-launch-on-august-27/

50% of Amazon Prime, Walmart+ Subscribers Step Up During Sales Events
https://www.pymnts.com/news/retail/2024/50-of-amazon-prime-walmart-subscribers-step-up-during-sales-events/

How Amazon supports Black-owned businesses during Black Business Month—and all year long
https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/small-business/how-amazon-supports-black-owned-businesses-during-black-business-month-and-all-year-long

Make sure to watch this week’s training tip in our Helium 10 Alerts tool, this is something that could potentially save you thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars. That's how valuable this tip is. Lastly, don't miss our insights into Helium 10 Adtomic's new features for creating custom bid rules in PPC management, designed to optimize your campaigns effectively.

In this episode of the Weekly Buzz by Helium 10, Bradley covers:

00:50 - Big Amazon Coupon Change
03:05 - Youtube x Shopify
04:47 - FBA Inventory Deadlines
05:36 - Walmart x Burger King
07:07 - International Return Update
08:08 - Temu vs. Shein
09:48 - FTC vs Fake Reviews
12:48 - Temu Japan
13:11 - Prime / Walmart+ Stats
14:33 - Black Business Accelerator
15:10 - Subscribe to Helium 10’s YouTube Channel
15:40 - Training Tip: An Alert That Can Save you $1000’s
19:07 - Helium 10 New Feature Alerts

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Transcript

Bradley Sutton:

Amazon has made a big update to coupons and promotions that could save you from some expensive mistakes. YouTube's trying to pull off some TikTok shop type moves. Walmart's giving away free Burger King Whoppers these stories and more on this edition of the Weekly Buzz. How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10. I'm your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is the show that is our Helium 10 weekly buzz. We give you a rundown of all the news stories and goings on in the Amazon, Walmart, TikTok shop and e-commerce world. We let you know what new Helium 10 features have and also give you a training tip of the week that will give you serious strategies for serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. Let's see what's buzzing. I've got a number of articles this week, so let's go ahead and hop right into it. First one coming up here is actually I was adding a coupon to this new product launch I'm doing of a coffin letter board and look what we found here on the coupon page. Anybody else notice this? In your browsers when you're trying to do coupons, there's this section that says stack promotions and it says do you want to allow this coupon to stack with percentage off or buy one get one. Promotions yes, allow stacking or no? Allow stacking. Now, this is pretty important because, as you know, in the past, like promotions stack with coupons and vice versa, meaning like let's say you had like a 20% off coupon on your page but then you had a 20% off promotion, that customer who's savvy could pick up both of those and apply it to your order, get 40% off right. But now, finally, you have the option to have it not stack If you're creating the coupon. Next, in the new help document about this, under stack promotions, amazon says here, based on your input provided on if you are going to stack or not, either one or both of the coupons or percentage off or buy one get one, free promotions will apply at checkout. So, for example, gave an example here it says let's say that you create a coupon 10% off and a percentage off coupon 20% off on the same ASIN, same duration. Now, if you say yes, I'm going to allow stacking during this promotion creation. Now both of these promotions are going to stack and the customer is going to get now 30% off at the checkout, right, the 10% plus the 30%. But if you select. No, I do not want them to stack. These promotions won't stack, and so the customer maybe they might see it and try and clip the coupon and do the promotion, but it says they're only going to get the higher benefit of the two promotions. So, like in that case there was a 20% off coupon and a 10% off promotion, they would get the 20% off coupon. So that's something that's pretty cool. I highly recommend doing that, for you know, usually people don't want to stack, and then when people have had stuff stacked, it's by accident and they end up losing a lot of money that they didn't realize. So if you're one of those who do not want your promotion stack, make sure to always click that no stacking.

Bradley Sutton:

Next article is from TechCrunch and it's entitled YouTube takes on TikTok shop with expanded Shopify partnership. All right, we talked a little bit about this, oh, I want to say, about four or five months ago, but now it looks like YouTube is ramping up efforts. It says, as TikTok shop is gaining traction, YouTube is expanding its partnership with Shopify to onboard more brands for its YouTube shopping affiliate program. All right, so now creators and influencers are going to get access to 1000s of new brands. It wasn't, like you know, before. We're just like 10 brands or something like very small number of brands you could actually promote for in a shopping experience on YouTube. Now it says 1000s of new brands are going to allow those products to be tagged in shopping videos. So you know, generating a lot of affiliate commission for these YouTube creators. Now if you're wondering, hey, what is the potential of this, well, YouTube actually had a pretty interesting stat. They said that people watched more than 30 billion hours of shopping related videos on YouTube last year and that the platform saw a 25% increase in watch time for videos that help people shop. And so you know, traditionally, the only option is okay, here I'm an influencer, I'm going to make a video about something and I'm directing people to Amazon, or I'm directing people to TikTok, or I'm directing people to Walmart or whatever, right. But now the YouTube influencers are going to be able to create content and then, right in there, link directly to Shopify products and people are going to be able to buy directly from YouTube or in the YouTube platform. And then these influencers are going to be incentivized because they now can get affiliate commission on YouTube.

Bradley Sutton:

Next article is from your Seller Central dashboard. Just a reminder of some important dates coming up. All right, prime big deal days is coming up in October. So now they announced that, hey, the last day that you can get inventory in to make sure that you have the Prime Ready badge is going to be September 13th. And then they reiterated again we already announced this a couple weeks ago Black Friday and Cyber Monday you've got to have your product in by October 19th. One other update they gave was hey, if you are using, you are going to get 25% off the base rate for e-storage fees and 15% off the base rate for AWD processing and transportation fees. All right, so this is going to be a limited time offer. If you're using a, amazon is giving putting some money back in your pocket for a change. What, what? What a novel concept. That is all right. Usually we're used to the uh, the other, the other side of things, right.

Bradley Sutton:

Next article is from CNBC. This one gave me a chuckle here. You know we've talked before about how amazon will come out with something. Wal. Walmart will come out with something. Vice versa, Walmart is now a pioneer in doing something new. Now we've always talked about the benefits that Amazon Prime starts adding, the benefits that Walmart Plus starts adding et cetera. Because the more Walmart Plus, the more Amazon Prime members, the better it is for us sellers, right, the more likely it is that we're gonna get sales increase. Well, now Walmart is doing a first. They're the first ones in this. They're adding Burger King as a benefit to the Walmart plus program. All right. So now, if you've got Walmart plus, you're going to be able to save 25% off of any Burger King order made through the Burger King app. All right. In addition, members will also be eligible for a free Whopper every three months, starting in September with a purchase. All right.

Bradley Sutton:

So first of all, you know it's painful to do this article. I've been on a crazy diet this week before I go traveling, lost already like eight pounds, and I'm looking at these hamburgers and fries. I'm like, oh my goodness, my stomach is growling. But anyways, I digress. What I really want to see now is all right, amazon, the ball's in your court. Let's see you make a similar deal with, like a fat burger in and out, Jollibee, something like that, and I'm going to be there. I need something for my Burger King. I'm not too much of a fan of, so. So, amazon, please hook us up with some good fast food and I am there to take advantage of it.

Bradley Sutton:

Next article is going back to the amazon dashboard. It's an update just on international returns, all right. So seller fulfilled international returns is going to be updated starting September 16th. So if you're an international seller who's selling in the US but you're overseas and you don't have a default US return address in Seller Central, now you are going to be required to issue a return less refund or provide a prepaid international return shipping label. So this is kind of interesting. This might seem like one of those articles. Maybe you just completely skip over, but read this in detail. But read this in detail. You know, those of you who are overseas, check do you have a U S return? Because, trust me, guys, that's going to get expensive. All of a sudden, you know your customers start getting you know returned without even you being consulted, and you don't realize it. Or you have to go pay for some international shipping which is crazy expensive, all right. So take a look at this article in your dashboard, see if that affects you, those of you overseas sellers out there.

Bradley Sutton:

Let's go back now to CNBC for another article, and this one's entitled Sheen sues Temu over copyright infringement, alleges rival losses money on every sale. So you know people are talking about oh man, Temu is trying to be like Amazon, you know, because they're trying to recruit US sellers and fulfilled in the US. You know, amazon trying to be like Temu. You know, trying to get Chinese sellers to ship directly with subsidized shipping. And then you know they're scared of each other for taking market share. You know, stories like that here and there have been coming up. But now it's Temu versus Sheen. All right, so this is something that was actually filed in the US. All right, this isn't some internal battle going on in the streets of Beijing or something right in China. This is happening in the US, in Washington DC.

Bradley Sutton:

A civil complaint where Sheen accused Temu of stealing its designs and also that an employee stole confidential trade secrets. They also say, hey, Temu is losing money on every single sale it makes and it uses trademark infringement to make up for the losses. This, this fight, you know, talks about a lot of different things, but it's kind of interesting because it kind of paints a picture of how sheen and Temu are making money and it makes you wonder, like, is that model sustainable? Like, if they are losing money in every order. How in the world can they keep that going, right? So, if you're interested in in these other marketplaces, I'm trying to get my Temu account set up just to test it out. I'm having a heck of a time getting approved on there, so so I'm still working on. I still want to be able to give you guys an update about Temu. So we'll see how it goes and let's see what if this lawsuit, ever you know, results in anything.

Bradley Sutton:

Next up article from the Street. It's entitled FTC finally makes a sneaky online shopping tactic illegal. Now, this article kind of confused me a little bit. I need to do some more research on this, because I'm not 100% sure that this article is going to happen the way it thinks it's going to happen. Okay, but this is a step in the right direction, all right. The article starts out hey, if you've ever read an online review for a product and thought, hey, this is too good to be true, you're probably right. It says that 30 or 40% of online reviews have been fake. But then here we go. But that will soon change, as the era of fake online reviews is about to come to an abrupt end. No, guys, I'm sorry. I don't care what FTC or Amazon or anybody, there is no way that you're going to clean up bad reviews, you know, like super fast, all right, it's just I'm sorry it's not going to happen. But again, I'm not trying to badmouth this. This is a move in the right direction, all right.

Bradley Sutton:

Now this new rule that's going to go in effect in October from the FTC, it's going to ban fake online reviews in several different ways. All right, the first rule says it's going to prohibit reviews from people who don't exist. Like wait, how can people who don't exist make review? No, obviously, what it's referring to is people making fake, you know. Can people who don't exist make review? No, obviously. What it's referring to is people making fake you know, profiles and leaving reviews, doing brushing and things like that, and also reviews generated by artificial intelligence. It's kind of saying that it's inferring that it's not going to be allowed. And now the interesting thing here maybe the most interesting for me is it says reviews from individuals who never experienced the product, business or service will be banned as well.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, why do you think I found that interesting? Because to me I'm now wondering does that mean that they're going to require Amazon, you know, Walmart, other platforms, to not accept any reviews other than verified reviews. You know, right now I can just go on any product and leave a review, right. But that almost makes me think, right that that Amazon might, or FTC might, ban that. The non-verified review is interesting. Now the rule also blocked businesses from providing compensation for positive or negative reviews. Okay, so I mean up until a few years ago that was even allowed on Amazon. It's still not illegal per se. Like I if I have McDonald’s, I can go pay somebody right now to leave a good review on my google profile. I guess you know, but that that's not going to be allowed anymore. So it's not just amazon's getting bad. It looks like that's going to be banned across the board. It says insider reviews, like by those who work for the company, is going to be prohibited. And here's a funny one, a funny statement. It says businesses will also no longer be allowed to use legal, groundless legal threats, physical threats, intimidation, to prevent a negative review. It says no longer be allowed. Does this mean that until now you've been allowed to use physical threats to get people to change? I don't know what this article is trying to say, or the FTC, I mean it is supposedly it was just quoted here but interesting stuff coming to the world of reviews.

Bradley Sutton:

Next article up here is from pandaily.com. Quick note Teemu is opening up a new marketplace in Japan on August 27th. Go look up information on that. Take a look at this article. It might be a good opportunity to get in a brand new marketplace. You know, right before it gets too big, who knows? If you're selling in Amazon Japan, you could probably get your stuff on the new Temu marketplace pretty fast if you hurry.

Bradley Sutton:

Next article is from payments.com. It was another one of these surveys. Some of these surveys are pretty interesting. It says 50% of Amazon Prime and Walmart Plus subscribers step up during sales events. Now, based on this study, they had some interesting data points here, all right. For example, it says shopper spending climbed 11% to 14 billion on this Amazon prime day. Now, 40% of all consumers participated in prime day. 20% participated in Walmart plus week, which is like their version of prime day. Now, this is pretty interesting because that Walmart number is still lagging way behind Amazon, but that surged 71% from 2022. It was only at 12% in 2022. So interesting Walmart Plus might be catching up. Walmart Plus subscriptions have increased 30%, especially among millennials and individuals earning less than $100,000 annually. But it says here Walmart Plus still lags way behind Amazon Prime, and both events saw a 50% participation rate from their subscribers. So interesting little stats that maybe you want to check this article out. Walmart plus is is still way, way, way behind amazon, according to this article, but they are catching up, maybe at a little bit faster rate than you might have expected.

Bradley Sutton:

All right, the last article of the day is just from amazon. Remind sellers that this month is black business month, all right. And then it talks here in this article about the Black Business Accelerator, a program that we've talked about right here on the podcast. It talks about a lot of the features they have for black owned businesses. It has some quotes here from Rod. You might remember right here he used to be. He was on the Serious Sellers podcast before. So if you have a black owned business, make sure that you get certified so you can get that badge, and then you're actually going to qualify for some special programs inside of the black business accelerator that Amazon has. Make sure to check out the article link to below for that.

Bradley Sutton:

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Bradley Sutton:

All right, let's get into our training tip of the week, and this is something that could potentially save you thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars. That's how valuable this tip is, all right. So a lot of sellers have said oh man, you know, I wish that I could be able to know if I'm on the border, what am my packaging on the border of one of these size tier changes like bulky to standard size, you know, or small oversize to just regular oversize? If I'm on the border, that could actually mean a lot of dollars to your bottom line. How are you going to find that? Whether you have a Platinum Diamond, whatever plan you have, watch this, what I want everybody to do right after this video or you can do it right now If you're at home. Go to Helium 10 Alerts. So go to your Alerts page you can find it in the tool menu and it is under operations hit Alerts and then check out on the top left-hand side under the overview section.

Bradley Sutton:

Normally, under overview, most sellers only have three lines of notifications talking about the buy box, monitoring slots et cetera. But if you have a package that is near the border of one of these size tiers, you are going to have a fourth line of Alerts here and it's going to say products with size tier automate optimization suggestions. And, as you can see, it says I've got three. So I click this button and it's going to take me to those suggestions. So take, you can see it says I've got three. So I click this button and it's going to take me to those suggestions. So take a look here. It took me to the place that has my dimensions and there's a big red little icon and then it's giving me a message. It says we've identified an opportunity to optimize your FBA fulfillment costs. By reducing the link by one inch, you could potentially move from size tier large bulky to large standard size, decreasing the FBA fulfillment costs from $10.75 to $7 per unit.

Bradley Sutton:

Guys, do the math really quick. All right, let's that. That's a whopping $3 whopping. You see, I was thinking about the Whopper that I talked about in the weekly buzz earlier. Yeah, $3.75 is nothing to scoff at. Let's do some math here. All right, so let's say I sell of this product 15 units a day, and now on my next shipment or maybe I can just change the packaging now on my next package and I can go take that one inch off, and now I save $3.75. Let's say, what did I say? Let's just say I sell 15 units a day, all right, so $3.75 times 15 units a day, that means every day. This could mean $56.25 to my bottom line. Times that by 365.

Bradley Sutton:

Guys, this one alert from Helium 10 has the potential to get me $20,000. I think that's a pretty valuable thing that Helium 10 is offering. So I hope everybody rushes to their computer. Check your Alerts page, check If you've got that size to your optimization active. Go to it and then take it. Take a look Now. You know some of you who are selling products that are a set size like because you have a mold or something it's not like. You can just snap your fingers and change your packaging. But, like me, if this is like one of my coffin shelves, I can easily redesign my next shipment where I can just shave off a half inch off the product itself and maybe shave it another half inch off of the packaging inside so I can cut down to that size All right. So that's a really cool update. Guys, make sure to go check that out. I said update. This has actually been around for about three or four months, but I think a lot of you guys didn't realize we had that. Now we are going to get into our Helium 10 new feature Alerts. Last week we had a huge one with a completely redesigned keyword tracker. This week I've got a lot of Adtomic updates for you.

Bradley Sutton:

All right. The very first one is the ability for ad Adtomic now to run sponsored ad TV ads. The first one here is now ad Adtomic is pulling in your sponsored TV campaigns. You're gonna be able to make rules in Adtomic for your sponsored TV ads. You're going to be able to see the metrics and run analytics. All of you can see me like I don't have any sponsored TV ads. It’s going to be able to see the metrics and run analytics. All of you can see me like I don't have any sponsored TV ads. It says zero right here, but now it is importing. How many of you guys out there are using sponsored TV? I'm just very curious. I'm not sure you know, like how much this is being used out there in the Amazon world. Let me know, are you, are you running sponsored TV ads? Have it? Has it worked out? Well, regardless, if you're using Adtomic, you can now make AI rules and bid rules and a whole bunch of cool keyword harvesting and things from those campaigns directly from Adtomic.

Bradley Sutton:

Another thing we have in Adtomic is a new way to make bid rules. Okay, so in Adtomic you can create your own custom rules. You can say, hey for my bid. If, if my ACOS is over this amount and my ROAS is less than this amount, then I want you to take the bid and increase it by 10%. Like it can get super, super granular and very complicated, and rightfully so. I mean PPC is complicated. A lot of our customers out there use a lot of different methods when they're running their PPC, so you need this level of granularity to be able to make rules. But other people you might be like overwhelmed, like oh man, I don't got time to make all these rules. I really like some templates and so you know, now we actually have some templates. So if you go to add Tomic and hit add new rule, you know you choose all the products that you want to apply to this rule. Now, on the right hand side, you choose all the products that you want to apply to this rule. Now on the right hand side you are going to see this button that says apply template. So hit that and you'll be able to choose from some bid templates that we have, and we're going to keep adding more.

Bradley Sutton:

Like I believe destiny from better media is working on some. But, for example, you've got one that says high a cost bid window and current bid safety net set up to lower a cost. That sounds like a mouthful right there, but basically what it means is like hey, you're decreasing bids on a high a cost target within a window based on certain kinds of criteria. Another one is decrease when cost per click is lower than the bid. So some people are like hey, I've got a bid that's $4, but if I'm getting cost per click for only three, I don't need to be at $4. You know somebody could bid me up and I could lose money. I want to go decrease it. You can just create a rule and all the little algorithms instead of having to, you know, come up with the actual rule step by step, it's going to just automatically create that for you. You've got an automatic bid rule, that's that takes away your wasted spend who doesn't want that? And then another automatic or another template that increases your exposure and resets your bid if you feel that there's a certain you know threshold that you're not reaching.

Bradley Sutton:

So a couple cool updates right there in Adtomic. Now, the coolest one of them all is now you can do paw. You can set a rule to pause your targets. Okay now, why is? Why is this important? I have rules in Adtomic where, for my search terms, I'm like, hey, if I get 20 orders and, by the way, guys, you know whether you use Adtomic or not this is something that I hope you guys are doing with your own software or with your own spreadsheets but basically I have rules where I'm like, hey, if I get 30 clicks or something like that 25 clicks, 30 clicks, 20 clicks with no sales I want to pause this or I want a negative match, right, this search term.

Bradley Sutton:

Now, I've always suggested do not negative match search terms in your performance manual campaigns, your, your exact manual campaigns, because now it's going to look like you have a target active but you really pause it in the background and then you might be like, oh no, I can't add any more keywords or targets to this campaign, cause I have so many, but in actuality you had pause all of them. You just don't realize it. So because of that, now we have the ability to make a rule. Let me show you guys how to do that here in Adtomic. I can go in here and I can select a new rule type and I'm going to put bid. All right, I hit next. Now it's going to take me to the new bid rule page and then watch this from here.

Bradley Sutton:

Under the criteria, I can say, hey, if my ACoS is greater than I don't know, 50%, right, I can actually now choose to pause targeting. All right, so it's going to pause the target. So if you've got an exact manual product targeting, ASIN targeting campaign, a keyword, exact campaign, and you've never and you always had to pause the targets manually, one by one, because you couldn't do a negative match or you didn't want to do a negative match. Now you can set that as a rule in your Adtomic. Another super cool thing that saves you tons of time and, as we know, time is money. So if you guys haven't gotten into Adtomic, make sure to go to h10.me/adtomic and sign up now, because this is what I use to manage all my campaigns and it's just getting better and better as we go along. All right, guys. That's it for this week. Thank you so much for and tuning in. We'll see you next week to see what's buzzing.

Tuesday Aug 20, 2024

#589 - Amazon PPC for Product Launch and Campaign Optimization

Tuesday Aug 20, 2024

Are you still using the same Amazon PPC strategies you started with? Join us as Vincenzo Toscano from Ecomcy breaks down the evolution of Amazon PPC campaigns, sharing expert tips for launching and optimizing campaigns for maximum profitability. Vincenzo offers insights on how to adapt your strategies as your business grows and reveals common mistakes sellers make, like applying the same tactics across different stages of a product's lifecycle. From keyword adjustments to bid optimization, you’ll get a comprehensive guide to staying competitive.

Explore the crucial role of keyword optimization during a product launch with Vincenzo's actionable advice. Discover how focusing on exact-match keywords and leveraging tools like Helium 10’s Cerebro can amplify your product’s success. Learn about the importance of the honeymoon period, and why organic positioning should be prioritized to build a solid foundation for future campaigns. With Vincenzo's guidance, you'll be armed with the knowledge to set up effective campaigns right from the start.

Get to grips with the hierarchy of PPC campaign types and how to set ACoS goals tailored to your product's lifecycle with Vincenzo’s expert insights. Dive into strategies for targeting specific ASINs, managing product variations, and maintaining higher bids for exact-match keywords to ensure visibility. Vincenzo also shares his approach to handling irrelevant search terms and optimizing campaign performance. To wrap up, learn how to connect with Vincenzo and his agency, Ecomcy, for further consultation and support, making this episode an invaluable resource for serious Amazon sellers.

In episode 589 of the Serious Sellers Podcast, Carrie and Vincenzo discuss:

00:00 - Strategies for Launching With Amazon PPC
02:52 - PPC Tips for Successful Launch
04:08 - Optimizing Amazon PPC Keywords for Success
10:47 - Keyword Research and Profitability Analysis
15:07 - PPC Strategy Hierarchy and ACoS Goals
19:23 - Optimizing ACoS for Amazon Sales
25:20 - Scaling Product With PPC Campaigns
26:48 - Optimizing ASIN Targeting for PPC
29:33 - Keyword Variation Strategy for Campaigns
30:49 - Connecting With Vincenzo and Ecomcy

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Transcript

Carrie Miller:

Today we're talking with Vincenzo Toscano from Ecomcy and he's going to be sharing tips and strategies for launching with PPC. He's also going to give you some tips and tricks on how to best optimize for profitability and he's going to give you ways to find the best keywords for those launch campaigns.

Bradley Sutton:

How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. If you're like me, maybe you were intimidated about learning how to do Amazon PPC, or maybe you think you just don't have the hours and hours that it takes to download and sort through all of those sponsored ads reports that Amazon produces for you. Adtomic for me allowed me to learn PPC for the first time, and now I'm managing over 150 PPC campaigns across all of my accounts in only two hours a week. Find out how Adtomic can help you level up your PPC game. Visit h10.me/adtomic for more information. That's h10.me/adtomic. Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Serious Sellers podcast by Helium 10. I'm your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is a show that's completely BS-free, unscripted and unrehearsed organic conversation about serious strategies for serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world, and this episode is our monthly live Tacos Tuesday show, where we talk about anything and everything Amazon and Walmart, PPC and advertising related with different guests, and today's host is going to be Carrie Miller. So, Carrie, take it away.

Carrie Miller:

I'm going to go ahead and bring on our guest, who is a friend of mine and I'm very excited to have him today, and it's Vincenzo Toscano. Hey, Vincenzo.

Vincenzo:

Hello Carrie. Thank you so much for having me and a pleasure to be here. How are you doing?

Carrie Miller:

Yes, I'm doing great. Tell everyone where you're at. You're a world traveler, so.

Vincenzo:

Right now I'm in London, so August for me is been kind of like a slower month. I mean, I still did like two, three trips but it’s lower than usual. And then in September, I retake the traveling around, yeah.

Carrie Miller:

Yeah, you're always somewhere, so it's always fun to hear where you're at. Vincenzo, can you just tell everyone a little bit about yourself and also your agency, Ecomcy?

Vincenzo:

So, essentially, at Ecomcy, we are a full Amazon and Walmart brand management agency. So we specialize on everything in terms of listing optimization, PPC, brand creative, international expansion, everything that has to do in terms of all the tasks that your business needs to successfully get scaled into these two marketplaces. So we've got teams across the world. We've got teams in the US, in Latin America, Europe, Middle East and Asia, so, effectively, we're able to cover the full spectrum where, specifically, Amazon is allocated. And, yeah, our main core offering to brands is essentially your one-stop solution when it comes to scaling your brand into these two marketplaces. So, yeah, we do everything from A to Z for you.

Carrie Miller:

Okay, let's go ahead and get into it. Then I'll ask the first question and I want to just get some some of your best tips for PPC. What are some tips that you usually share with people?

Vincenzo:

Of course. So I would say something that I'm very basically been pushing in terms of content is how PPC evolves over time. Right, I feel I have seen this mistake so many times, unfortunately that when we do audits on a daily basis and we have a look at accounts from people that you know are really struggling, I usually identify that one of the main reasons is because the strategy they basically decided to use for the launch is the same one they've been using effectively for scale and also the same strategy they've been using for reaching profitability. So I would say that's one of the main things sellers have to start understanding that PPC is not something that you sit and forget and in fact, I guess so many times this conversation from people that, let's say, want to work with us and say oh, what if you do the campaign once and then I just leave it there and then they're on their own. It's like it doesn't work like that. Your PPC is going to change constantly, especially in markets such as the US that's so competitive If you're not on top of the game and you're practically, you know, adjusting the type of targeting, the type of keywords, the type of beats, the type of ads that you can do sponsor brand, sponsor a product, sponsor display. It can get very, very, very difficult. Now in terms of tips. So I will say one of the first thing and I'm going to focus now a little bit on the launch side of things, because I know that's where most of the sellers really struggle is you have to understand the setup of campaigns that you do throughout a launch of your product. It's completely different when you're on a profitability mode, right, and that's where I want to really give you as much basically actionable steps so you can then go after this live and implement it throughout your next launch. So, when it comes to launching a product on Amazon the other day, guys, we need to understand that PPC is basically a tool that is there to amplify the success of your product on Amazon, right? Why do I say this like that? Because I feel, if your product is the type of product that you feel is gonna require all its PPC to be a successful product, unfortunately I have the bad news for you that is the wrong product, right? PPC is only there as a tool to, of course, get the momentum going, but where the money really is gonna come is from your organic position. Once you understand that initial fundamental, that's going to completely shift your focus in terms of why you do your PPC from day one. We have heard so many times, even from Bradley, like the honeymoon period is the most important thing of your listing on Amazon. Right, it's really the foundation of how Amazon basically goes from knowing zero about your product to building a very mature understanding about where your product is basically reflected within a category and what connotation has to specific keywords. So one of the tip I always give to people when launching a product try to not get distracted by shiny objects, right? So many times I feel people launching their PPC and they try to do all type of the campaigns from day one. They try to do Excel, phrase, automatic, tons of brands, also display. And the issue with that is that because your product is not mature at all and it doesn't have a really good indexation in the system yet, at the end of the day you can actually do worse than actually helping. You're confusing the system with so much data from day one. So the tip is usually the first 14 days to 30 days. I only focus on exact match keywords in terms of the way I target them and I also try to only focus on my 10 to 20 keywords max. I try to not spread myself so thin, because the other mistake and this is a tip as well If you start spreading your budget too thin across multiple keywords, you also dilute your efforts In terms of, when I say dilute your efforts, your budget runs out very fast or you don't show very high on that specific keyword. Well, effectively what happens is that you don't even get enough clicks to make a proper optimization. Therefore, from those initial two weeks to four weeks, you really want to build a strong link between the fact that your product has zero information on Amazon eyes to the point that once you start targeting this keyword aggressively with exact match, you create a link and then that's when you start launching your phrase, your product, your other campaigns and so on and you start creating that momentum. I'm going to make a small pause, so I don't know if you're going to ask something next, but that's a little bit of one of the initial tips I want to give you. Like focus on exact match, try to not dilute your budget across many keywords. That means focus on the core keywords that are really going to position yourself for success in the future and, at the end of the day, that's going to allow you to create that initial foundation to them with the rest of the campaigns forward and also create basically a face in front of Amazon eyes of what your pro actually is and what are the keywords you want to get positioned for.

Carrie Miller:

I think that's really good. Those are good tips because people are always asking me how many keywords they should focus on for launching and how many per campaign. So that's really really good info. So, in terms of keywords, what is the best way to find those keywords that they should? And then you know what kinds of keywords should they be looking for?

Vincenzo:

Yeah Well, the answer is let's see Helium 10.

Carrie Miller:

Very nice.

Vincenzo:

So that's the best way of finding the keywords. Like I mean, we use Helium 10 on our daily basis for finding keywords for our clients, one of the things that is definitely going to be your best tool for that is Cerebro. Cerebro is like the best tool out there when it comes to really filtering down and finding those winning keywords that's actually going to give you the ROAS that you want on your investment. Why that's important? Because another day, when you start researching a specific category, it's very easy to fall into a trap that you come across 50, 100, 200 keywords and you start falling into the mindset oh, if I target all these keywords at once, my chances of success is actually big. And that's actually the opposite. By multiple studies and even case studies we have done internally, usually 70 to 80% of your sales are going to come from 10 keywords most of the time, right? So therefore, once you start understanding that most of the time, 10 to 20 keywords are going to be the backbone of your business, if you start diluting yourself on things that effectively which is what we call the 80 to 20 rule you put your efforts on something that's not going to give you the best outcome. That is not going to create the momentum that you want. So we use Helium 10 by analyzing the top 10 competitors on a specific keyword and once we identify the top 10 competitors, then we use a Cerebro to say, okay, find me the keywords where these competitors are on page one. Okay, and this keywords is consistent across this many number of products. Right, because by using the specific initial filtering, then I'm basically removing a ton of keywords that I know. Yes, these competitors are ranking there, but not necessarily they're on page one and on a consistent basis, because if you're on page one, most likely by nature you got there because you got multiple sales organically and therefore that's why also that keyword, by being repeated across other competitors, is giving you a validation that the keyword is essentially one of the main keywords of that specific category. So once you find those keywords, that's then where you have to also have some of your insights in terms of what you know about the market. What do I mean by that? If you come across a specific category I'm going to put you on an example like yoga mats, which, by the way, very competitive pro guys, so don't do yoga mats. Okay, let's say you come across yoga mat and you do an analysis of the top competitors and then on your top 10 to 20 keywords, you start seeing keywords that, yes, they are very high in search volume and relevancy. But then you start identify that some of those keywords have things embedded that your product doesn't have, maybe a specific material, specific shape, specific color. You have to be careful with that, because if you only go blindly by data and then you don't use your analytical mind to then see it's actually that has some kind of relevancy to my product, you can also fall into the trap of targeting the wrong keywords. So that's how we find the keywords. Then, of course, we can start going deeper into the strategy in terms of, okay, what kind of CPC I want to go for, for example, with the healing term. You also get certain averages. So you can say, at the moment I can only afford this keyword or I can afford that keyword, but you can go even an extra layer and focus on title density, so to focus on keywords that are less competitive. So there are many verticals you can take from there. But the basics is that top 10 competitors finding them where a decent page one on a consistent basis, at least 40 or 50% of those products, and those are usually my starting point, to then go deeper and filter down.

Carrie Miller:

This question from Eric kind of goes along with what you're saying. What if the first 15 to 20 keywords for exact match don't get enough traffic? Also, the bid can get very expensive as well.

Vincenzo:

Yeah. So if you come across that, essentially, the search volume is not high enough, first of all, that's a red flag, because this is actually something, guys, that you should do from the very beginning. Like all this process I've been describing in terms of keyword research has to be part of your product research. Like something I do with all the products that we launch, and I launch beef. Even if the product is a super winning Amazon in terms of the data and I also validate with Helium 10, I still need to figure out my profitability at some point. So what do I mean? Answering your cost per click question, if I then have a look at the cost per click average, right, and that cost per click average in correlation to the average of the conversion, which you might ask yourself, how do we get access to this data? You have brand analytics. You can, with brand analytics, have an understanding of what is the average of conversion With that. If you start making the math of this is the cost per click, this is the average conversion, and I pay X amount of dollar for a product. You know sometimes, mathematically, even if your position number one on all the keywords and you put a minimum in your PPC, you're never gonna be profitable. So that's the first thing you have to do before launch any problem making sure that within your margin, even in the ideal a scenario, you have the best compression, your rank and everything the margin allows for the average of CPC. Now, when it comes to search volume, you're gonna find sometimes products that are gonna be surprising in terms of why this product, for example, is doing $20,000-$30,000. But then when I have a look at the keywords, the keywords don't really resemble the level of demand. It's like very small keywords. Usually that happens because you're going to find a term in the Amazon space called outlier keywords, right, keywords that go beyond the scope of the product itself. So I'm going to give an example. There was this specific product we were working with which was like a key to things in the kitchen, right, like doing a specific type of cakes here and there and all of that. But when you go around the actual keywords of the product, the search volume wasn't high enough. And then we started to see but yes, these two or three competitors are doing high revenue. How are they getting all these sales? When we went deeper into the research, we identified that they were ranking for things such as gift for mom, gift for girlfriend, cooking, cooking accessories. Words are very broad and when you go on those broad, we're talking thousands of search volumes. So that's also something you have to be very careful when you do product research because if not, you might feel, oh yes, this product do x amount of revenue with this, very easy to get keywords. But most of the time, I can guarantee you, is because they have some of these outlier keywords that are pushing the level revenue. And to conclude, if the search volume you feel is not high enough to you know, create the momentum themselves. Something I will try to do is try to attack, for example, accessories that go along with your product. When I have limitation on the keyword level, my best friend is acing targeting Because, for example, let's say you're selling again a yoga mat and let's assume the search volume is very low. Then you're struggling, like, okay, all the keywords have to be yoga mats. Like have a low search volume. I'm really struggling to scale this product. What should I do? Then you start using your money and say, okay, but actually people are buying yoga mats, but they buy yoga blocks or they buy yoga water bottles or they buy leggings, you name it. So what you do is you start targeting with AC, targeting those products, and then you try to, essentially, even if you cannot win at the QLA, you can try to create some kind of profitability by targeting accessories that go with your niche. So that's usually a way you can mitigate that. But again, in conclusion, you're going to find that if then the search fund is really to a point that's super, super minimal, the only savior if I'm honest with you, is going for all of your keywords, which that by itself means you're going to require a higher budget that you anticipated, because usually those are like very big keywords you have to attack.

Carrie Miller:

Yeah, those are all really good points. Keyword research is super important and you know when you're doing product research for sure. If I have a well-performing search terms in an auto campaign that I want to start exact campaigns for, should I negate those keywords in the auto campaign or keep them active in the auto campaign?

Vincenzo:

Yeah, I always get this question. So essentially what happens is that as you start running your other campaigns and, as I say, I usually recommend touring your other campaigns at least two weeks or four weeks after launching your product in fact, you can do this exercise. If you try to create a phrase broad other campaigns from day one, it won't excite much campaign. You go to the suggested keyword tab which amazon generic gives for you. You're gonna see that's right and that's effectively the theory and the behavior we have identified. If Amazon doesn't have history about your product, why are you going to give them basically an empty field for them to run like crazy and not really have a direction? What is the real path towards success, right? So once you generate that with exact match, a keyword campaigns when it comes to other campaigns, those are gonna be your best friends. When it comes to keyword that sometimes you're gonna struggle to find, for example, within them, and that's normal, because sometimes other campaign what it's gonna do is it's gonna find like very, very small long tails that have a lower search volume or very specific that sometimes a. The reason why they are so specific is that they come with specific trends throughout the year or they just come and go, so the auto campaign is going to ensure that catch, basically the low hanging fruit. And once you identify these keywords, let's say you start identifying one that start to become very repetitive in sales, like when I say repetitive is at least three to five sales. If it's only one sale, like I, wouldn't necessarily move it to exact much campaign yet because I want to allow it to prove itself right. Once I move it something you want to do and this applies to all your PPC strategy you have to follow always a hierarchy. Exact is the king right, then you have rest, then you have broad, then you have auto campaigns. Why this is important? Because the other mistake I see a lot is let's say you have a bid in your other campaigns of $1, right, and then you move that keyword to an exact match campaign. You put it 50 cents right by nature. The other campaign on Amazon are still gonna have high priority across your whole account and it's gonna hit most of the budget and most likely it's gonna have priority in terms of placement visibility compared to the exact version of that keyword. So that's very important. If you move it, the bids on those new campaigns have to be higher than your other campaigns. Once you move it I usually don't like to negate it. I'm gonna tell you why. You're gonna find that your other campaigns usually you end up in placements that you don't end on manual campaigns. And this is because Amazon essentially when you work with lower bids they have like what we call like lower tier actually placements that they usually are attributed more to auto campaigns. So you're gonna find that for some specific keywords and this happened to us all the time we move the same keyword to a manual campaign and we start getting a higher CPC or conversion drop significantly. Because even if you think you're targeting the same keyword and it goes an extra layer, it's not only about targeting the keywords, it's about how Amazon actually showcased those impressions in different placements. Therefore, for me I don't negate it because if, let's say, I had Yoga Mat at $1, it came at a $1 average CPC on my other campaigns, then I move that to my manual exact. I will start at least at 120. So I have that hierarchy defined. But then I wouldn't fully remove from my other campaigns, at least at the beginning, because I want to see if the behavior of my new campaign is effectively reflecting the reason I moved the queue in the first place. If I see that after a while that behavior start to happen, then usually yes, I like to negate on my other campaigns I move it to exact. But the reason for that is because some of the, when it comes to optimization that we haven't really got deep as of now. One of the things that can get very confusing, especially when you start targeting multiple listings on your account and so on, is the illusion of essentially data that will define clear KPIs. What do I mean by that? Let's say you're targeting Yoga Mart from another campaign and then you're targeting Yoga Mart from an exact match campaign. The same queue is being targeted from two fronts, but then when you're going to do optimization, in Amazon eyes they are seen as two different search terms because they are under different campaigns. So you're not quantifying the real success of the keyword combined, right. You are seeing them separated and if you start doing that across multiple campaigns, what is going to happen is you might fall into the trap of sometimes thinking a keyword is a loser when actually it's a winner where you combine the efforts of all their impressions is having across all the campaigns. So therefore you want to make sure over time if the campaign is performing better for a specific keyword on a specific placement. That's the one you leverage and then over time you start negating the rest until you have a single point of contact for every single keyword.

Carrie Miller:

I'm starting to build campaigns and bid rules in Adtomic. When looking at ACoS and setting goals, should I look at ACoS data from our past campaigns or is there a set percentage for ACoS for certain products?

Vincenzo:

Yeah, so ACoS, at the end of the day it goes a little bit with the tip I was saying in the beginning. It has to be teletraining your strategy in terms of your journey, launching scale, profitability, because it's different, the echoes you're going to target as a brand when essentially the product is completely new compared to when it's very stable, and I'm going to give an example so you can essentially visualize what I'm going to explain next. So let's assume, when you go start selling on Amazon, you had an ACoS of 80% which, again when you launch on Amazon, being over 50% is normal. 50-100% is usually the bandwidth I try to build when launching. Usually, the thing that is most important throughout this phase is actually not even the ACoS, it's conversion right, because when you're launching on Amazon eyes it's not about making money, it's about the new traffic I'm giving to the new kid in the block. How is this person behaving with this new set of traffic? And therefore, in Amazon eyes, if I get as many conversions as possible, which effectively is sales, that is gonna allow me to get a more and more placement organically, indifferently of the ACoS. That's why the initial ACoS of the initial two months I wouldn't use that as a baseline to do what I'm gonna do next, after my scale and profitability because here the focus is not ACoS is making sure I get position organically. Therefore, long-term, I can dilute my efforts for my PPC perspective so I have lower expenses and at the same time, the cells start coming organically, I'm gonna make my order revenue bigger and therefore my TACoS, which is my true ACoS, is gonna get lower and lower and therefore that's what the profitability kicks in. Now, when it comes to setting the goal, something you have to also be mindful is ACoS is highly related as well to your profitability. Okay, why? Because it's not the same delivery aggressiveness I'm going to do with a product that have 50% margin. That product have 10% margin, right, because that defines by itself like how much extra room you can allow to lose money for a specific period of time and you can budget for it. Therefore, the first question you have to ask yourself like do a P&L see what is the basically margin you can allow yourself in terms of, let's say, you identify that your margin is 20%. Once you identify that your margin is 20%, usually a good rule of thumb is that if my margin is 20%, then I should be my ideal ACoS for breaking even, for example, is 20%, but usually what I do as a rule of thumb towards launch, I double it. So whatever is my breaking point, I do 2 to 3 times. So that means I can afford a 40 to 60 percent ACoS and usually that's gonna be like your bandwidth, you need to play in between right and then you, of course, you start diluting, diluting until you get back to 20% and then eventually, with organic sales, they're going to kick in. That's going to make it lower and it's going to make you profitable, yeah.

Carrie Miller:

Next question what search volume of keywords should I target for launching? Some keywords have huge search volume and are hard to rank on page one immediately.

Vincenzo:

Search volume, something that you have to do and this is also another tip, guys when it comes to creating your PPC campaigns. Something that is key is segmentation at the volume level. I have seen this mistake so many times and this is one of the reasons why sometimes your PPC is not working. You should never put on the same campaign a keyword that has a search volume of 10,000 with a keyword that has a search volume of 10,000 with a keyword that has a search volume of 1,000. Why? Because the ratio in terms of difference is so big that, in Amazon eyes, given that this queue has a much higher search volume and therefore relevancy for this specific product, all the budget is going to go to that specific keyword and therefore, if you don't do campaigns that is, for high search volume, medium search volume or low search, low search volume you're going to find the phenomenon which I'm sure a lot of you are going to find if you go right now on your PPC dashboard that only 3 or 4 keywords are getting all the spend and the rest are getting no impressions and clicks. That's the first thing about search volume. Second thing the way you define what search volume you can attack is also highly dependent on what is the budget that you have allocated toward launch, because the higher the search volume is, the higher is going to be the cost per click because, by nature, there's more competition attached to it. That's why this is a question that should actually be asked even before launching the product, throughout the product development phase. But let's say we come across and say, okay, I have an identified that the search volume average is, I'm gonna make you now, basically a bandwidth of what usually you see between 1,000 and 10,000 and usually I have, let's say, 20 keywords in between. Right, usually that's a very similar behavior you're going to find what I usually try to do is most likely if you also go under the 1,000 mark. You're going to find a lot of keywords that have lower search volume, but usually the list is going to go from 20 keywords to maybe 1,500 keywords, because you're going to find a lot of keywords that have a low search volume. Now what is going to happen is usually by norm, I only focus on the top 15 to 20 that define the ratio of the search for us. Therefore, if between 1000 and 10,000 is where I find the top 20 keywords, that's usually the bound where I would stay, from the best keyword to the 15 or 20, right? Because if you start going below that, you're going to dilute the effort. What is going to happen? Your budget is going to spread two things and sometimes, given that you're not competitive enough on the main keywords, most of the budget is also going to go, by nature, on the less competitive keywords. And, yes, maybe you start getting more sales on the less competitive keywords, but, at the end of the day, that's not what is going to set your business for success in the long term. So I rather forget the ones that I know are not going to create the backbone of my business. Focus on those top 10 to 20 keywords, define that as the ratio of search volume and then, from there, start going down as the momentum itself is getting built up.

Carrie Miller:

All right, this next one is a pretty good one that I've been asked this a few times too. How do I scale a product with PPC? I've got good results with the campaign for the past 30 days. ACoS is under control, click-through rate is good. Should I increase the budget or duplicate the campaign? Thank you.

Vincenzo:

So, let's say, your PPC is already performing and your click-through rate is good, which is one of the main metrics I keep mentioning. Some of the things you have to do next is okay, this is a the keywords I'm pretty much getting most of my sales from in terms of my PPC, and you want to start isolating those keywords as much as possible, because what you're going to identify most likely on those campaigns when you start going deeper and deeper most likely the ones that are driving most of the success is like five keywords, right. Therefore, usually, if you follow the strategy of adding multiple keywords on a campaign, you're gonna find that other keywords are diluting the efforts of going tunnel vision on the keywords that giving you the ROAS that you need. Therefore, I will go on all my campaigns making sure the keywords have the good click-through rate and performance I need are kept in the legacy campaigns, which means the ones already have history, and the keywords that haven't performed I move them into new campaigns and therefore rinse and repeat. Usually, winners stay in the campaigns where they're being winners. The losers I remove and, based on how bad they perform, I might retry them on a new campaign or I might remove them altogether and re-engage on a new keyword research perspective. Yeah.

Carrie Miller:

All right, we actually have a question from Bradley Sutton.

Vincenzo:

Oh, there you go.

Carrie Miller:

I don't have too many search terms showing up on my ASIN product targeting campaigns, but I heard others get a lot of irrelevant search terms. Now instead of only ASINs Is the only way to stop this is to put search terms in negative match or at the campaign level.

Vincenzo:

Yes, yeah, thank you for that question, Bradley. Yeah, at the moment it will be at the campaign level. Yeah, so this for those that might not know when you actually target a specific ASIN, for whatever reason, that actually also shows you for search terms right and therefore you know you appear for a specific search term. The issue with that is that it appears as a search term. It doesn't appear as a keyword. Therefore, if you negate it at the R group level, essentially you're not negating it because this is not even a keyword you're targeting in the first place, you're targeting an ASIN. So one way we have found I mean in between to you, Bradley, because sometimes we still see by passing that it will be at the campaign level you negate at the campaign level so that ASIN the search term that it generates, it doesn't basically get repeated.

Carrie Miller:

Lots of my products have several variations. When I create a PPC campaign, should I only select one variation for the campaign to target, or should I select multiple or all of the variations?

Vincenzo:

Good. So some of the things I usually do is, if you have historical I'm going to give you two scenarios, because usually there's two scenarios you have the scenario where you've been selling for a while and you have historical data. Therefore, that's very simple you just go have a look which variation is the one that has the best conversion and you go for that one. Now the second approach is what most people go across, which is you're going to launch this product with multiple color sizes and all of that, and you know which one to go for. Usually, your best friends for this is having a look at and I'm sure by then, if you're launching the project, you already understand the market having a look at reviews of your competitors, which you can do with Helium 10, and then figure out what is the ratio of the color or the variation that sold the most. So you start having some educated guess. That's one way of doing it. Then the second way of doing it is also a brand analytics. You can have a look at the specific ASIN that's been sold the most on the specific a category. You can also use proper to an explorer to get some insights around a specific a variation that sell the most. So there's different, different sources of data. You can combine and make this guess and if you still Somehow not decisive, because maybe all these sources doesn't really give you a clear answer, then the way I will go for it is initially only I will pull them all within the same campaign to see how this performs, because by nature, Amazon is gonna most likely start selecting one over other based on KPI. So who click the mouse and who convert the mouse? And then that's gonna be my winner and my baseline for my rest of the campaigns are gonna create. Forward, now, forward. Now another thing, guys when you start creating campaigns and you define a clear variation, let's say you define the clear winner is color, red, red, yoga mats right, that's going to be the one you're going to use on all your generic keywords. Still, if you have blue, white, black all these are colors you still want to create the same resembles of these keywords, but with the variation embedded in it, right? So, for example, let's say, as I gave you the example, red, blue, black yoga mats. Then you want to have, for example, a campaign for red, red yoga mat, red, exercise mat, red, and you name it and you do that with every single color and then you can also mix the order. And all of that because that's what it's going to allow you to do is, while the main variation takes the pull of the sales from the generic keywords, you still want to have a very strong presence on the long tail and more niche keywords that people are going to try to look for, that specific variation, even if it's lower than that. So you have a full spectrum control of the main market, the main market, the mainstream market, and they have control of the more niche market at the keyword specific level.

Carrie Miller:

Thank you so much, Vincenzo, for joining us on this TACoS Tuesday. It's always great to have you. You have so much knowledge, so much to share. Every time I've seen you speak or just share everyone, there's always some great info that people can take and, do you know, basically put things right to work with their PPC. So thank you for doing that. Thank you for doing that, thank you for sharing, answering all these questions, and hopefully we'll see you again soon. Where can anyone find you? If they want to find you and reach you and maybe ask you questions or connect with your agency.

Vincenzo:

Sure, so you can find me as Vincenzo just counting all the social media channels Like. Luckily, I'm the only one in the industry called Vincenzo, so it's going to be very easy to find me. When it comes to the agency, you can find Ecomcy, also in all the channels, or go to our website, ecomcy.com, where you're more than welcome to book a free consultation with our team and hopefully we can answer some questions and explore future partnerships.

Carrie Miller:

Awesome. Well, thanks again so much and thank you everyone for joining and asking questions and hopefully this was very helpful for you all in the audience and we'll see you again next time. Thank you, guys.